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Programmer Testifies About Rigging Elections With Vote Counting Machines

Clinton Eugene Curtis testified under oath, before the Ohio State legislature, that he wrote a program to rig elections. This program would flip the total vo...

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Comment by Ann G on November 21, 2012 at 12:27pm
Comment by Kate Bowe on November 11, 2012 at 11:01pm

It does not matter when the video was made. Just because it was even 4 or 10 years ago, does not mean that there was No machine rigging on Nov. 6, 2012. Do you really think that Ovoma really won square and fair? I DO NOT.

Comment by Kate Bowe on November 11, 2012 at 10:30pm

Thank you Katie. I haven't read anyones comments yet, but I have believed Obama won this election because the machines were rigged. There is no way he would have won otherwise.

Sad, that nothing will be done about it. We have been out right stolen by the communists.

Comment by Paulette Hutterer on November 11, 2012 at 7:20pm

the election should  be void, ALL must have ID, the military ALL can vote

Comment by Gary Given on November 11, 2012 at 8:26am

Perhaps this is an opportunity for us to take action! Let's organize to descend upon, say St Lucie county in Florida, which reports that 141% of the registered voters actually voted, and poll every registered voter to see who they voted for. If the tallies are significantly different, would it not be grounds to challenge every district in the country which uses votong machines?

Comment by Spaulding on November 11, 2012 at 3:13am

Thanks Katie. This video is a decade old, but as pertinent as when the testimony was given.  Mr. Curits made one key observation.  He said the only way to detect fraud was to have the original ballots. Good programmers would make corrupting code impossible to find, self deleting.  Once a vote is inside a computer there is no audit trail possible.  A ballot not counted in the precinct where it was cast has no audit trail.  our elections have not been auditable since we gave television precedence over local counting.  ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, Fox, all insisted that they needed the numbers immediately. We might get counts, but as Mr. Curtis pointed out, flipping a bit, or a few bits, is absolutely undetectable. A count from a scanner contains no information about the intentions of the voter.

A couple of decades ago the count was actually tabulated by a private corporation, Voter News Service, owned by the five major networks, with offices in New York.  Some say this was sactioned by senior officials in our government.  Let's leave that, but I'll suggest that anyone interested read the fascinating little book written by two counterculture brothers, the Colliers, called Votescam.  They identified corruption of their race against Claude Pepper, video taped punch card tampering, and submitted evidence to the FBI, resulting in the suicide of the president of the League of Women Voters in Broward county, whose group was paid to perform the count.. 

 When I looked over my precinct I found that they were connected to the Internet, and had WiFi connections to a router, which I assumed talked with the scanner.  Their system would have been trivial to hack. Without local counting, no one could know.

 

We used to have paper ballots counted by precinct workers in each other's presence at the close of polls. The workers represented each of the parties on the ballot.  After counting, each ballot went to a secure box which was sent at the end of the session under guard to a bonded storage facility, never to be opened unless by court order.  The local precinct count was the offical count.  That is how votes are counted in Israel, and in some other countries where the public is not so gullible, and respects the principle of representative government. 

 

 We don't yet know what the results of this elections will cost our economy, or to lives around the world.  But we absolutely cannot say that we know the will of the people.  No voting data have the benefit of having been counted and certified by our neighbors, mostly voting for different issues, but all of whom value the voting process enough to give their time to help with the vote.  I trust the integrity of my neighbors. Today, in California, most absentee ballots are counted by the SEIU. A vote for the wrong ballot issue and the wrong president might cost them their jobs, their pensions, and their healtcare. They shouldn't have been put in the position of having to make that choice,. 

When there is no audit trail, or as lawyers and police investigators say, no chain of custody for votes, voting is futile..  Only paper and local counting, before ballots disappear into trunks, rivers, or ballots are added, invalidated (two marks for  the same office invalidate a ballot). Forget the high tech solutions.  I work there.   Voting must be simple and transparent, and thus far, only paper and local counts satisfies.  So it takes a day. We are losing our freedom so that television can be the first to report, but probably so that those I power can choose for us.

We need to help educate people.  Rebecca Mercuri's writing and verifiablevoting.org are among thousands of sites that show the concern is shared.  There is no reason to believe the results of this last election. Some of the obvious overvotes, more votes than registered voters, that have been gaining currency in Missouri, Colorado, Ohio, Wisconsin, and Florida, give a hint.

Comment by Doug Nicholson on November 10, 2012 at 11:22pm

Not sure of the hearing date, but a  video of what looks to be the same hearing was posted to YouTube in Jan., 2008:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDd21pEmP4g

Comment by Cracker on November 10, 2012 at 10:52pm

I'd like to know when the hearing was too. If this is true and fraud was committed! Then what should the next steps be? Obviously the LYING state run liberal media will not help. The department of injustice will not help. They are just a leg of the democrats (communists)> So how can we become as nasty as them and make this take them down?

Comment by Carolyn Hamilton on November 10, 2012 at 9:33pm

When was this hearing?  Was this this year?  I would like for someone to get me this info and if its recent, tell me how to find this on the internet... I have looked.

Comment by Thomas Angle on November 10, 2012 at 7:34pm

Until We the People step up and throw them all out, hold them accountable, nothing will happen.

100% agree

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