Jack E. Kemp
When Clarice Feldman started a discussion recently at American Thinker http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/01/the_administration_s_new_fro... about women in combat in the U.S. military, it inevitably brought up the argument that ignorant leftists love to use, namely that Israeli women are in their army. The left believes these women are all like Rambo but with nicer hair - and they don't go for the bare-chested look that Stallone sported. Here is an exchange of comments under Clarice's post between some woman named Yvette familiar with leftist tropes, myself, and an American aviator who trained in Israel with their forces.
The four comments:
Women in combat? Great knee jerk reaction there, Holmes. I have three words for you:
Israeli Defense Forces
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I've got a few words for you as well, yvette. Most of the women in the Israeli Defense forces are not in front line combat positions. They are trainers (like an acquaintance of mine who learned about Raytheon Hawk missiles from a an IDF woman), company clerks and secretaries. I recall riding a bus in Israel, standing behind a 5'3" girl - yes, girl - with an M16 slung over her back. She did not look very formidable as a front line soldier to me. And I doubt if she turned into the Incredible She Hulk out in the desert. Could you tell me how many women there are in the Israeli commando force or the Palmach Paratroopers? Not many, so don't wave "IDF" around as if that proves something. I recall sitting in the Tel Aviv airport and talking with an American Gentile tourist woman. We spotted a young woman with the black beret of the Israeli Tank Corps. I don't think her job was replacing tank treads or loading heavy shells into the tank's cannon. She was probably a secretary or higher position intelligence enlisted woman.
@yvette99 & JackKemp:
I spent quite some time working with Israeli aviation forces in Israel. This bunk that the IDF uses women in combat roles is absolute nonsense! Not even the aircraft technicians who repaired and maintained the aircraft were female! Women do work as drivers, cooks, rear area medics, administration specialists and other non-combat related jobs. As such they were entitled to wear the appropriate beret and insignia of the unit assigned! The IDF does train women in unarmed self-defense as well as armed defense. Some are trained with rifles, some pistols. Women would be an absolute last ditch choice to send into open combat. But don't think for a moment, that the IDF will ever use women as INFANTRY, ARMOR or FIELD ARTILLERY soldiers! Libs have claimed this for years and have brainwashed countless others to believe such crap, but it isn't so! NO NATION IN THE WORLD is so stupid to include women in COMBAT UNITS as front line Infantry, Armor or Artillery soldiers!
Army Aviator, thank you for your service. You have also reminded me of the time in the 1970s when I marched in the annual Tsadah, a hike through parts of Israel and (then) the West Bank. That year we got rained out late in the night after one full day of marching around 20 kilometers. The event included civilians and Israeli soldiers both in this open public event. A unit of Israeli Army women marched in formation in low heels, maybe .5 to 1 inch high. Those were not the combat boots the male Israeli soldiers marched in or the work boots I marched in. Those female soldiers were definitely not members of a combat unit. They did look sharp, however.