Republicans, ALL of us need to quit bitchin' and start thinking about this November! We simply can't have another four years of Barack Obama. As much as I suspect Mitt Romney, I would rather take my chances with him than endure four more years of Barack Obama.
Romney was not my first, second or even third choice. There are many things wrong with him. Starting with his current state of residence. Some friends of mine who reside in Boston just returned from China. When I asked them "what it was like to visit a Communist country?" They replied grimly, "Massachusetts is more Communist that China!"
That's disquieting but not altogether surprising!
Romney actually won the Governors mansion in the Bay State. He advocated gun control. He was pro-choice and seemed willing to make deals and compromises with Democrats. In retrospect, his defense stood on the basis that the Massachusetts legislature was made of of 85% Democrats.
A more clear look at Governor Romney's past would indicate that he is a "William Weld type" Republican. He also drew much of his ideology from former presidential candidate, Paul Tsongas. Tsongas, a Democrat described himself as a "pro-business liberal." Weld endorsed Bill Clinton in the 1996 Presidential election.
This is not reassuring to most Republicans. But to Independents and more moderate Democrats it is very reassuring. It scares Barack Obama's camp. Attempting to paint Romney as a "moderate, willing to gain bi-partisan support," isn't going to lose a lot of ground with uncommited voters!
The bad news for Mitt Romney is conservatives don't like him and generally don't trust him. BUT, conservatives have no place to go! Supporting Obama isn't an option. What are the alternatives? Staying at home? Gary Johnson?
This is the Republicans election to lose. Obama is not polling well. A large number of Independents are done with him and look to give Romney the reins. Obama's only chance is to play a class warfare campaign, dividing America on racial and ethnic lines. His back-up plan is to cheat. And, hope that conservatives are so steeped in ideology that they will not turn out.
We'll address cheating first. The logical place to begin is Florida. Look at the attention Governor Scott has drawn from Eric Holder as of late! The votes will be tabulated in Spain. Rumor has it that George Soros is a secret owner of the contracting company. Scary! BUT, if Romney is smart enough to put Marco Rubio on the ticket, Florida will be off the board for Democrats. The only thing that Mitt must endure will be the "birther spite" that will come from far right Tea Party types who are hung up on the obscure 1875 SCOTUS case!
Assuming he takes Rubio, Obama's only chance will be to split Ohio and Virgina. That's assuming that he doesn't lose Wisconsin or Colorado! Romney should win the remaining Southern states and all of the plains states. I think that if Rubio is on the ticket, Navada and maybe even New Mexico will return to the "red" column.
Gaining a split with Ohio and Virgina should be difficult for Obama. Odds are he'll lose both and with it the presidency. Thats why it's imperative for Repblicans to win Florida. The danger is overconfidence. Dems know that it's the key to the entire election. We must anticipate anything and everything, fair or unfair, legal or illegal.
Most importantly Republicans must realize that Mitt Romney is a disciplined party member. He will likely not carry his home state. He'll remember that, too! Too bad for Massachusetts. But good for the health of the Republican party. It's highly predictable that Romney will stay true to the platform, appoint conservative or moderately conservatives to court positions. And, run the nation like a business. True, I would much rather see a "supply sider" than a "Kenseyian."
But, for better or worse, Mitt Romney is not a Communist.
I also think that he might be a closet "Federalist." That could yield some distinct advantages. We must hold him to his "tax cut" proposal. Simply allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire, blaming it on Democrats, isn't good enough! We need to press the issue and I think that we will. We must also follow up on Rubio's objective to "allow insurance companies to cross state lines." This will naturally lower the cost of health insurance. This coupled with Texas' "loser pays" tort reform will return health insurance costs to reasonable levels.
Don't expect Romney to fight either initiative! He did what he did in Massachusetts because he was dealing with perhaps the most liberal of American states. Is he a "trimmer?" Yes, but this very notion could work to conservatives' advantage. The key will be to maintain control of the House and retake the Senate.
Perhaps the greatest advantage to having Romney in the White House versus Obama relates to the Energy sector. Oil and Gas and Coal producers should benefit. And with that will be the natural creation of jobs. Good paying jobs with benefits! Romney should be rather predictable here. He has always been "pro-business." ANWAR, the Green River Basin and other key areas will be given a chance to develop under his watch.
Comment
So you are both suggesting that Senator DeMint and Govenor Bush are stupid?
I am sorry. But that interpretation is just not being bought by enough people to make a difference. If you want to vote for Jesus or stay home, that is your privilege. But experts in constitutional law, legal scholars and people who I consider stronger than myself on this subject, don't agree with you!
This is a free country. You can vote for Bugs Bunny for President, if you choose. But you'll only be helping Obama. This 1875 SCOTUS case just isn't strong enough to disqualify a candidate who may be our best chance to right the ship. The Democrats are scared to death of Marco Rubio. Arrianna Huffington called him the" Obama of the right."
It would be extremely short sighted to allow this obscure Supreme Court opinion to wreck what could be our best candidate in 30 years. Especially, considering that all of the top party brass isn't even taking it seriously! We must unite and get behind this ticket! I never liked Romney. But, because we couldn't get together, we've got him! Now we must get out and campaign hard for him. And, find the best running mate to win the election. That's Marco Rubio!
We all seem to agree on one thing! We all want Barack Obama to be a one term president. For this to happen, we must do better with the groups mentioned earlier. Romney is not polling well with Hispanics. If we fail to receive 40% of the Hispanic vote, we lose the election. Romney isn't doing as well as he needs to do with women, especially younger women. To win, we need to at least split the vote with Obama. "Blue collar" Democrats don't trust Romney. To them, he is the "slick, rich guy." Rubio connects with them. Last but not least are the "millinials." These "under thirty voters" broke for Barack Obama in 2008. They are restive and likely the most fickle of all voters. BUT, they like Rubio! He is a "rock star" to them. He speaks to them. They will turn out in force for the GOP if he is Romney's running mate.
Convinced? Maybe not! Perhaps you would rather lose the election on a "perceived principle." If so, I respect you. I think you're wrong. DEAD wrong! This country cannot endure another four years of Barack Obama! Romney was not the best choice. Hopefully, we can fix that problem for future elections. It will start with changing the state sequence. But that's another discussion for another day.
Right now, we need to win in November. And I am not going to entertain any thought of disqualifying the best Republican candidate in thirty years due to a 137-year-old court opinion that also upheld women's non-suffrage! No way. No how!
I DO VOTE for Jesus.
I vote for Juses by voting for Christians who are eligible to be President according to our Constitution for this nation was founded of Christ.
But if the presumptive nominee (Romney) picks an ineligible person for his VP (such as Rubio) I will not support Romney.
Two wrongs do not make a right.
A better action to take is to remove usurpers, dictators, socialists, and maxists. Fight the righteous fight.
Comment by Billy Bowlegs on June 20, 2012 at 12:04pm 
Jeff;
I posted a memo on this earlier in the week.
Got an email today with the above attached.
We also saw late evening news about Romney selection.
It does not appear to be RUBIO.
To vote for a ticket with RUBIO on it is to shoot the hell out of our own Constitution. Nothing against RUBIO.
He is bright, probably the smartest in washington given the news this AM.
But, it is the Constitution damit.
We have to save the Constitution to save the United States. A vote against the constitution is one more nail in the death of the Constitution Casket.
Do you want to be held responsible for sundowning our own Constitution.
I do not.
Comment by Kate Bowe on June 20, 2012 at 10:40am I repeat:
DO NOT VOTE FOR JESUS on the ballot.
A vote for Jesus on the ballot does not do anything.
A vote for someone that is actually able to take the position and is against lawlessness and evil IS a vote for Jesus.
"Insurper?"
Maybe in some eyes I am. But it's likely that some who would likewise pin that label on Senator DeMint and Governor Jeb Bush!
Both have endorsed Rubio for the VP selection. That's good enough for me! One thing that has become obvious in my 56 years: there are a lot of people out there smarter than me!
I have seen a few campaigns. One was the 1990 Louisiana Senate election. It occurs to me that these Americans who would suggest that the 1875 SCOTUS case is grounds for disqualication of Marco Rubio, would be the same people who would have supported David Duke for the Senate seat in Louisiana in 1990.
Make no mistake! These were well intentioned people. But, they held deep seeded racial or ethnic preferences. Duke conected with them.
I am not God but I do know this: Marco Rubio is the Republicans best option for VP. His only problem is "very few know him." I do. But, I lived in Miami and worked on his campaign. Here's what I learned:
(a) He is a "pure" conservative as in a "supply sider," an "absolute combination of Ronald Reagan and Thomas Jefferson." He loves and believes in America.
(b) He is a born again Christian. I agree that Romney's Morman faith and LDS's lack of belief in the Trinity concerns Evangelicals. It should. But Rubio is a devout Christian. He is a family man. He is pro-life and always has been. He supports a constitutional amendment that would sanctify marriage between a man and a woman.
(c) He believes in a strong national defense. We have a pacifist in the White House currently. I think that we can agree on that.
(d) Marco Rubio is the champion of small business, not the Fortune 500 companies.
(e) Marco Rubio believes that English should be adopted as the official language in the United States.
(f) Marco Rubio believes in a immigration policy that is "fair, practical and comprehensive." Many Americans with no experience in the matter have an amazingly closed mind. I am married to an immigrant. I have experienced the rigors of our system. It is broken. But the solution is not to load them all on a bus, take them to the border, dump them or preferably shoot them! We must examine each person on a case-by-case basis. These are people, human beings. No, I am not soft on immigration and neither is Marco Rubio. But we may be "shooting ourselves in the foot" by taking positions comparable to Tom Tancredo. I like Congressman Tancredo. But, he has a position that would encourage "throwing out the baby with the bathwater."
(g) Winning the election. If you believe that anyone other than Rubio would be better, I would love to hear your argument. And "who" could bring more votes to the ticket! The Republican Establishment put themselves in a box when they rammed Romney's nomination through. Rubio offers a way to "turn chicken manure into chicken salad." The only thing we must do is to properly introduce Marco Rubio to the party. We know that the RINOS would rather have Christie, Portman or McDonald. But they'll accept Rubio because they already have their guy in Romney. The key now is convincing conservatives that West, Ryan or any other conservative won't bring much help to the ticket. Rubio, on the other hand, will lock up Florida and probably Nevada. That guarantees a very close election. West is respected. But, like Sarah Palin, he will have minimal impact with Hispanics who make up 22.5% of Florida's population. Ryan might help in Wisconsin. But I think we'll win that state anyway. The "Badger state" Republicans are more moderate. They are fiscal conservatives more so than social conservatives. Romney should do better with them than in more religious "red" states.
Remember, Romney has major problems with four groups: (a) Hispanics, (b) women, (c) "blue collar" Democrats and (d) voters under 30. Without Rubio, I think he will lose. It might closer than in '08! But" close don't count except in hand grenades and horseshoes!" He must win Florida. Rubio guarantees it,
David please, instead of relying on this 1875 Supreme Court case, please read Rubio's recently released biography, "An American Son." America is changing. At the beginning of WW 2 we had 130 million residents. Now, we have 307 million. Republicans must recognize this and catch the tide. We must look past this election into the future. Marco Rubio is the ideal "president in waiting." In best case, Romney could enjoy two terms. I think that he will face and defeat Hillary Clinton in 2016. In 2020, Rubio will be 49 years old. He will "young, but seasoned."
I am thinking about my three children. I want them to have the same opportunity that I had. We need someone who will not merely attempt to mollify the Communists. We need someone who will root them out and destroy them. Marco Rubio will! He knows first hand what Communism can do and how it destroys.
My only regret is that he is not on the top of the ticket.
Mr Willis (A.K.A.: Insurper)
Enough already!
We will never violate the Constitution.
You best go back and read my last response along with all other. Maybe readying them 100 a hundren times over will do you good. I doubt it but at least it will keep from wating our time.
As for a Romney/Rubio ticket being unbeatable, if you believe that then you are a insurper.
From this point on all post with your name will be deleted with reading. I encourage others to do the same.
I like Sarah Palin, too! Life would be easier if she were the Repulican nominee; for all of us! Unfortunately, she's not! And she won't be this fall.
For anyone who read any of my previous posts on TPN, they will remember that I went as far as to suggest a "Shadow convention" in Tampa nominating a Romney alternative. That's how much I detested Romney as the nominee and how Romney ran his campaign. However, emotions aside, who will benefit by such a ploy? The answer is simple: Barack Obama and the Democrats.
Republicans need to change the state sequence. We need to make it clear that we will no longer accept Iowa and New Hampshire as the first two states to lead the primaries.If you recall, the media establishment wanted to call the race for Romney after New Hampshire. Fox News was an extension of RNC and the Romney campaign. But...it's done! We can talk about 2016. And we should! But, for now, we must play with the hand that we are dealt.
Sarah Palin and Allen West would be powerhouses in the U.S. Senate. And their addition is within our grasp. If Rubio is Romney's running mate, the Republicans will win. Sure, there may be a handful of stubborn ideologues who will either stay home, vote for someone not in the race or "whistle Dixie." But, most importantly, a lot of young people will join the Republican Party. And, a lot of impatient Independents who voted for Obama in '08 will vote GOP.
Yes, I appreciate the SCOTUS 1875 argument. But I just haven't heard any people in the Republican mainstream lend too much credence to it. They say, "yeah, but that court also affirmed that women didn't have the right to vote." It was a "snapshot" in history. The same could be said for the 1857 Taney Court that handed down the infamous Dred Scott ruling.
I have lived in Miami and worked with Rubio's campaign. He is a real conservative. More so actually than Gingrich, Santorum or Bachmann. In reality, he is a combination of Ronald Reagan and Thomas Jefferson. You would agree if you had followed him as Florida House Speaker. He's the real deal. We need him. He represents the future of our party.
Immigration is an issue that we need to confront, not avoid! Most politicians see it as a "toxic issue," as Karl Rove would say. Rubio has tackled it. He should be applauded, not chastised! And, we must get past the notion that "unconditional deportation" is the only way! We must deal with each file on a case-by-case basis. And the kids who are in the U.S. through no fault of their own, must be handled differently than someone who slipped into the country, never planning to return.
I realize that there are a lot of good Americans who feel that the best way to handle the immigration problem is to simply load them all on a bus, drive them to the border and dump them. They don't understand the problem. Most illegal aliens are not from Mexico. The majority of illegals are not even Hispanic.
Yes, we'll have a few diehards stay home on election night if Romney-Rubio is the ticket. But, for everyone one who does, we'll add two new voters. If not more! And don't forget! We can always nominate another candidate in 2016 if President Romney doesn't fulfull his duties to the platform. Meanwhile, we'll have a direction for the future. And I don't think the majority of the country is going to support a literal interpretation of the 1875 SCOTUS case anymore than they would support the Dred Scott decision.
So, don't be calling me a RINO or a Progressive! I am a constitutionalist to the core! But I am likewise a pragmatist. Romney will be the nominee. It's a done deal. Now, we must find the best way to close the deal. We can't win without Florida. Allen West, as great of a Patriot as he is, won't deliver Hispanics like Rubio will. Neither will Paul Ryan. Or Bob McDonald. Or Rob Portman. Or Christ Christie. Sarah Palin won't be on the ticket. Look at the electoral map. Do the numbers. And think about the parties future.
20% of the entire country are classified as "Dissaffecteds." Please read the National Review Article, "Dangeous Disaffection" from June 16, 2011. This sums it up! This group is composed largely (two-thirds) of Independents. 77% are white. 44% have children. 80% do not have a college degree. Their average household income is $30,000 per year. 72% don't trust government. 80% don't like Obama.
What these people want mostly is (a) a job and (b) a guarantee that their meager entitlements won't be taken away. Many own struggling small businesses. THESE Americans gravitate to Marco Rubio, the absolute champion of small business.
It would be a good idea for people who have already condemned Marco Rubio to first, "get to know him." He's the real deal! And, for goodness sakes, let's not "cut off our nose despite our face!"
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Comment by William Homolka on June 18, 2012 at 10:33pm Mr. Willis, I totally agree that Obama must not remain in office another four years. He, in fact, should be removed immediately and arrested for fraud, usurption, and any other crime he has committed to worm his way into the Oval Office. But to commit another wrong by advocating Rubio as not being a natural born citizen because the Dems did it is constitutional suicide and death for our Republic. The issue of Obama must be confronted head-on and that is precisely what we Constitutional conservatives are doing. He WILL NOT get another four years - with the UN Agenda 21 operating and Obama supporting it fully, we have not other alternative but to fight for his removal. Do you understand what I am saying. And don't refer to the SCOTUS precedent ruling on natural-born citizenship (Minor vs. Happersett [1875]) as an "obscure law." You are an operator like the progressives if you truly believe - and I think you do - what you're writing. After "Obama must go," the rest of what you write turns me off.
Robert,
I wish I could personally shake your hand. What you said was not only well said, it was right on all accounts.
But you may not wish to use the all inclusive word "all" any more. Besides I, there are many here that are fighting the same fight. Those that want Rubio and Jindal and even Romney are not the educated / Citizen Patriots majority.
As a suggestion, if you are not already aware of "Sarah Palin's 2012 Earthquake" and not a member you might like to see what is going on over there. They are pushing hard to provide a better option for President (Sarah Palin). I am working with them in prayer and action to see they are successful. I am also working to see that Allen West is her VP.
Palin/West 2012 = two fellow Citizen Patriots
"Airborne! All The Way"
Comment by Robert Kenney on June 18, 2012 at 6:00pm Why do you all continue to advance Rubio and Jindal who as Republicans are two of my favorite new comers and real honorable workhorses as VP's .Only problem is they are neither "Natural Born Citizens"
Number two,why have none of the Republican geniuses taken apart this illegal regime under the RICO Act ,they certainly qualify with 26 state or federal laws or a combination of the two broken.OBama and his hoard could easily triple that and the statute calls for freezing assets of the parties involved.This is not a smoke dream in my head many legal eagles have written about this over the last two years.But for the life of us we can't understand as Citizen Patriots just three and a half years old and still learning the ways of politics,why the Party that is supposed to be our partner and like minded mentor is so absolutely complicit and every bit as corrupt as the Socialist/Communists that we are fighting to burn out of our Godly and inspired system.Boehner is a raving joke ,the Party fights for nothing with the exception of stand out young guns and a very few old guard.The Tea Party is used and then ignored or even worse ridiculed.Alan West was thrown under the bus by his own party in a redistricting fiasco that still makes no sense.The Ms. TP was instrumental in changing the liberal dynamics conservative for the first time in 147 years but I was at a Senator Roger Wicker re-election gathering personally in the last couple of weeks and not 15 feet from the TP President he took full credit for the GOP and not a scrap to our efforts.Well I'm not the only voice here to point out your udder failure to represent us and still with the RINO's GOP we are screaming in your ears we want the RINO's removed and soon.We are learning the ropes ,we are motivated ,we are absorbing your conservatives on the way to forming a new party.We are pissed and will be removing benefits,and prosecuting Un-Constitutional actions of the past.The Angels of the Lord were ferocious warriors and we are a christian nation,we have been nice and organized and negotiated in good faith and with honor >Look closely in our eyes as you deal with us now our armor and swords are next.
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