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"The fault Dear Brutus is not within our stars, but within ourselves that we are underlings."

I'm going to take a contrarian position today, both from one which my fellow conservatives are taking, and from the position that I myself would usually take. Here is my position, we should go for the Ryan/Murray deal, and we should go for it quietly. I know that most of you reading this will blast me for my heresy, and let me state for the record, I agree in advance with most of what you're going to say. I only ask in advance, that you consider my arguments at least a little before passing your judgement.

First off, our current predicament is entirely due to the fact that we have not won sufficient elections recently to establish our will, nor even to adequately represent our wishes upon the national scene. That is a fact of life. Elections have consequences, and what we have happening in Washington right now is just the brutal reminder of the beautiful truth behind that statement. There is a second part to this however. Until we start winning elections, and winning them in bulk, we will never again get our way, no matter how passionately we state our well reasoned arguments. While I agree that we are far too often duped by some pretender or traitor, there are also some good people from our side who have stood up for their principles and done what was promised, and those people deserve our support.

The next point I'd like to make is that while this deal sucks, the current spending level can only be described as insane, and we are well into the period of time when according to the last deal, and the one before that, and the one before that, and the one before that, promised that the future cuts would be taking place, we both know that this was where we were going to end up anyhow. No matter how fiercely our brave House Members fought, and no matter how tight a budget they passed and sent to the Senate, it would be DOA. The Senate would reject it, Harry Reid would strip up the version sent over, the Senate Democrats would have passed an amended version that would have been this monstrosity or worse, and the GOP in the House would have caved like cheap suits. After a long protracted fight in which this bill or worse would have been signed into law, we would have all been left feeling violated once again, and wondered what in the world they even bothered for anyhow.

Another thing that I'd like to mention is this. The entire process is nothing more right now than one giant squirrel, as in the variety that I warned about yesterday. Barack Obama is bleeding, and any budget fight right now would represent a fierce distraction from his bleeding carcass, and one by the way that would almost guarantee his regaining popularity, at least amongst his base. Winning elections should be our top priority. Obamacare is the gift that will do that for us, or at least be a major help. By November of next year, the employer mandate will up the number of previously insured but no longer able to afford it Americans to about 150 Million pissed off people. All of the above will be searching for their pitch forks and torches. We can spend the next year helping to keep them focused on the one single issue that will help us rid our Universe of the Marxists for at least a generation, or we can allow ourselves and our fellow citizens to become distracted, throwing away the gift that reality and Team Obama have so thoughtfully given. Paul Ryan's budget was a political maneuver, and while many of us do not like those, losing the tactical war has been part of our downfall for a very long time. Frankly, I'm happy to see that at least one member of the GOP finally gets that, and has done something about it.

Like it or not, this is the price to be paid for those protest votes, purity tests, staying home on election day because you didn't like that your guy lost and the other guy's candidate won in the primaries. As Jimmy Johnson told his Dolphin Team during a playoff game in which they got beat by over 50 points, "if you don't like it, do something about it." There is only one something that can be done about it. Yes, our guys got slammed tactically when they controlled the Senate, House, and the White House, and they let us down by continuing to act like Democrats. Since then however, there have been 80 or so worthy Tea Party House Members elected and a few in the Senate. The answer is not to stop supporting them, the answer is to get more of their kind elected, so that they can make a difference.

Ryan's punt may seem like a purposeful throwing of the game, but it is not. He is a policy wonk, and is playing chess, while others are playing checkers. What he is trying to avoid, and succeeding at avoiding by the way, is 8 weeks of headlines in which the GOP is blamed for throwing grandma off of the cliff, starving puppy dogs, while the Obamacare disaster takes to the back pages, all for the grand prize of having an even worse deal passed in the end anyhow. He has punted with the wind at his back, and has decided to let his defense try to force the fumble, and right now, their offense has shown that they are prone to fumbling the ball. The best and only path to having your way right now is the exact path that Paul Ryan has chosen to take. We need to have our guys win in both 2014 and 2016. Without that, cutting spending will be nothing more than a pipe dream, no matter how loudly we all proclaim to want that.

For the record, here's what the Heritage Foundation had to say abou...

Cross Posted from Musings of a Mad Conservative.

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Comment by Royce Latham on December 12, 2013 at 11:04pm

Comment by Simantov on December 12, 2013 at 5:00pm

Good answer John Wiseman. Paul Ryan knows that this deal will not solve any of the problems we face, except that we won't be mired in a budget fight and can keep the heat on the Dems. We also will be able to prevent the military from being further weakened as would happen using the sequester. About the "purity" test, I am very conservative when it comes to smaller government, military strength, fighting radical Islam, free enterprise, but when it comes to social issues, that wasn't the point of the Tea Party. The point was, and is, Taxed Enough Already.    And we want American ruled by the Constitution.

Comment by John Wiseman on December 12, 2013 at 1:37pm

I found myself at the subject of a discussion post in the forum section, here is my response to that post, exactly as it appeared there.

Please allow me to introduce myself, I am the guilty party which Jeff has written about with his discussion post.  I would like to take this opportunity to clear a few things up, or to defend myself here if possible.  First, let me say that I am not a moderate, have never considered myself as such, and I believe that Jeff has missed the point of my post entirely, which is understandable.  For context, and only if you wish to, you can read the subject of his argument here:

http://musingsofamadconservative.blogspot.com/2013/12/sometimes-pun...

First off, I have written many times about the purity tests that many subject members of the Republican party to on many occasions.  Not everyone uses the same template, but that does not mean that they do not exist.  I have read enough comments at this forum, at many others, and heard them on enough radio shows to know that there are more than a few who consider anyone who does not agree with a given view point on Abortion for example to be a true conservative.  These litmus tests are usually applied with one or two pet issues for example, and have even seen institutionalized versions of this with various organized groups over the years.  My point in referring to this is that none of us will ever be 100% happy with any candidate for electoral office.  The people running of course are people, and not super heroes.  They are flawed, just like the rest of us.  If we wait around for that super person, who makes us all feel 100% warm and fuzzy inside, I would be extremely suspicious of that one person based upon that reason alone.  Even Ronald Reagan was not the Ronald Reagan who's memory is being invoked for the purposes of this discussion here.  President Reagan made plenty of compromises on his principles, because he believed pragmatically speaking that he wanted more from his Presidency than a principled stand which accomplished nothing.  There were several instances in which he gave the House Speaker concessions which saw expansions of several Social Welfare Programs that he abhorred.  Expansions of Medicare, The Community Reinvestment Act, Department of Education, Environmental Protection Agency powers and authority, and others happened in order to secure the tax cuts and business deregulation that led to the super boom enjoyed clear until the year 2000.  The fact that I, someone who has written plenty and voted plenty as a Conservative has now been painted with the Rino Brush, is itself proof of my statement.  (As a matter of fact, I researched about a dozen instances of Mr. Dover chiming in with agreement on other posts that I've written as well as articles that he's liked in the past.)

Next, my decision to support and advocate for support for this current budget deal is not based on liking the budget deal.  I believed that I had made that clear.  As a matter of pragmatism, no matter how principled a stand one wishes to make, Conservatives do not have the votes in our Legislative Branch at the moment to pass a resolution admonishing gentlemen to put the toilet seats back down after usage in the Congressional lavatories.  That rotten fact, and it is a fact, is due to the Conservatives losing, and making a point of losing, far too many elections.  If you really want to get anything actually accomplished, winning elections, and a lot of them, is the only way that this will happen.  We can all wish that this was not so, but as the saying goes, wish in one hand..............

What does Paul Ryan's deal really represent.  First and foremost, it represents an actual budget, and thus true oversight for the money that is spent.  It should be noted here that this would be the first one since 2007.  For the past seven years, there has been no oversight what so ever on federal spending, that would change, and that is no small victory.  Secondly, is there anyone here who can honestly say that they would expect that a better deal would be secured should this principled stand take place?  Look down the road 8 weeks out and tell me what you honestly believe will be the endgame here.  Just because I agree with the punt now does not mean that I am against the end results you've mentioned above.  I too am for a limited federal government, one constrained by the Tenth Amendment, one limited in its scope by the consent of those governed, one that allows for the free markets to reign and let loose the full imagination and creative powers of a population that enjoys the freedoms allowed by self determination.  We merely disagree with how to get there.  I have rooted for and written positive things about Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Mike Lee, and many others who have passed your particular tests more than most of those here, probably including yourself.  I also can't help but notice that there are others on your list of acceptable politicians previously, who no longer make your list.  I further suspect that it was one singular issue that got them kicked out of the club.  Marco Rubio comes specifically to mind, with his particular sin being immigration.

As you've mentioned that your first priority is to return to federalism, returning power back to the states, what you are short on though is a path to do that.  What is your plan?  Following your lead, that is what you are advocating for, will not accomplish this.  Your path will lead to nothing more than a continuation of one party rule, with the current group of Marxists remaining in control for at least another decade.  Without a plan to actually win elections, there is no chance of seeing this situation improve.  You labeled me an infiltrator, and I am calling you out as the same thing.  At least my way has a snow ball's chance in hell of working out.  Your's gave us four more years of a President Obama.  Maybe that's what you really wanted. 

Comment by Robert Burton on December 12, 2013 at 12:52pm

This budget deal sucks. Year over year spending increases. The sequester legislation is ignored. ObamaCare continues to be fully funded. And, we continue to move further into bankruptcy. A debt that we will never overcome. 

Once the Republicans decided that they would not shut down the government, they had no choice other than capitulation to the Democrat legislators and President. And, this is their strategy?

And then they have the nerve to tell us that it is a great deal for Republicans and for the country. Stop urinating on us and telling us it is raining.

I would prefer honesty in terms of the message they offer to their base. "They will not shut down the government, so they will accept any deal the Democrats offer". At least it would make sense.

Where is the vision, the strategic emphasis, the message, the political educational imperative? 

Comment by Jeff Dover on December 12, 2013 at 8:36am

Please explain "purity" test.  Sounds like relativist talk to me, the kind that moderates and liberals like to throw around.

These are bad ideas bedded in pretty good information as I see it.  It's not about taking heat off Obama nor is it, at this late date, even about the money.  If there's someone who needs more heat, it's Ryan and Boehner.  Let's keep that fire lit.

What it's about is not conditioning ourselves further to taking bad deals. Let's not teach ourselves "okay, just this once more", because .... it never ends.  Time to end it.

The Tea Party, at this point, has to draw a line in the sand and say "We're no longer accepting what this moderate GOP leadership is dishing out.  This is what we're having and we're going to have it with you or without you.  Choose."

 

Comment by Kristin Fecteau on December 12, 2013 at 8:26am

one word here is important: BUDGET.  Do y'all realize that we have not even HAD a BUDGET since Obama was elected? It's been a series of continuing resolutions this whole time. Having a budget at least puts the power back into the hands of the House to say whether or not things get funded. This very well may be a chess move on the part of Ryan. Just getting a budget at all is actually progress. Let's wait and see where this goes. 

Comment by Teri S on December 12, 2013 at 7:02am

You put into very eloquent words exactly what I've been thinking. We need to keep focussed on what a disaster Ocare is, as we all knew it would be, but millions of O supporters are just now finding out.

Comment by Philip Echerd Johnson on December 12, 2013 at 5:50am

Come on, folks!!!  Keep the faith!!! We have control in only one house of the government!!! Admit it!! Keep your eyes on the ultimate goal!!!! We can only effect change with more control (winning elections). Do we get that by being p--ssed and not voting unless our favorite candidate is on the ballot??? Or, writing in some persons name that has a snow balls chance in hell of being elected??? Vote for the "lesser of two evils" if need be.What is gained by "staying home" on election day??? All you are doing is giving another vote to the opposition by so doing. As O'Reilly says, "Wise Up!! I rest my case!!!!

Comment by Dennis Langston on December 12, 2013 at 1:30am

O  is using everything he can find to take o'care out of the limelight. Ryan just blew aside one huge smokescreen before it could be put into effect. Sometimes when the bridge is out it is necessary to wade through the water to get to the other side of the river.   I learned as a child that you don't keep trying to force out a rusted bolt. Sometimes you must tighten it a bit to release some of the binding rust , then loosen it some more.

As a natural born contrarian I have always seen faults and benefits on each side of an argument, which makes it hard to believe in absolutes. The Tea Party is a perfect fit for me, as I can now heartily disagree with everyone...LOL...

Comment by Royce Latham on December 12, 2013 at 12:19am

The name the Globalists give to their media:

CMMM Controlled Major Mass Media

from:http://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-t...

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