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Timothy Birdnow

Much has been asked about who Barack Obama is, what he believes. Obama says he is a Christian, and there are many willing to take him at his word, but Christians are commanded to test spirits to see if they are from God, and Mr. Obama's bears scrutiny. I did that scrutiny in an article a few years back at Canada Free Press.
 http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/27103

This recaps some of what I said in my CFP article, and adds a few details. I would argue that Obama's beliefs mirror the old Arian Heresy, which means they mirror Islam (which is a rehash of Arianism). (Hat tip to Selwyn Duke for reminding me of this. http://tbirdnow.mee.nu/_the_obama_purchase_liberals_still_cant_admi...)

Obama's stated religious beliefs match well with the old Arian heresy. Arianism accepts the historical Jesus and sees him as a great teacher and even a path to God but denies His divinity. If you read Obama's words you will see that HE follows that very same course.

From the interview:
http://www.wanttoknow.info/008/obama_religious_beliefs_views

"GG: Who's Jesus to you?

(He laughs nervously)

OBAMA:
Right. Jesus is an historical figure for me. And he's also a bridge between God and man, in the Christian faith, and one that I think is powerful precisely because he serves as that means of us reaching something higher. And he's also a wonderful teacher. I think it's important for all of us, of whatever faith, to have teachers in the flesh and also teachers in history."

End excerpt.

That is Arianism at it's most fundamental. It should be pointed out that Islam flourished in the lands where Arianism was strong, and is in fact a variation of Arianism; Jesus is still the greatest of the prophets (although He did not die on the cross) and is a bridge to Heaven, although Muhammad is greater and THE bridge. An Islamic interpretation of Obama's beliefs in not out of the question.

But a Christian faith surely is; Christianity requires the belief that Jesus was one of three members of the Trinity, that He is God as much as the Father or the Holy Spirit. Please notice that this belief is notably absent.

Here are a few other great quotes from Mr. Obama"

"I'm a big believer in tolerance. I think that religion at it's best comes with a big dose of doubt. I'm suspicious of too much certainty in the pursuit of understanding just because I think people are limited in their understanding."

[...]

"So, I'm rooted in the Christian tradition. I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that there is a higher power, that we are connected as a people. There are values that transcend race or culture that move us forward, and there's an obligation for all of us individually as well as collectively to take responsibility to make those values lived."

[...]

"Uh, yeah, I guess I do. Its' not formal, me getting on my knees. I have an ongoing conversation with God. Throughout the day I'm constantly asking myself questions about what I'm doing, why am I doing it. "

[...]

"Alongside my own deep personal faith, I am a follower, as well, of our civic religion."

[...]

"And if there's an Arab American family that's being rounded up by John Ashcroft without the benefit of due process, that threatens my civil liberties."

(editor's note; he has GOT to be kidding! Given what his NSA has done, what his IRS has done, given the innumerable dead from drone strikes, etc.)

[...]

"GG:
Do you believe in heaven?

OBAMA:
Do I believe in the harps and clouds and wings?

GG:
A place spiritually you go to after you die?

OBAMA:
What I believe in is that if I live my life as well as I can, I will be rewarded. I don't presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die. But I feel very strongly that whether the reward is in the here and now or in the hereafter, aligning myself to my faith and my values is a good thing.

When I tuck in my daughters at night and I feel like I've been a good father to them, and I see in them that I am transferring values that I got from my mother, and that they're kind people and that they're honest people and they're curious people, that's a little piece of heaven."

(Editor's note: a. living life as well as you can does not send a single soul to Heaven according to the Christian faith b. rewards in this life is a belief outside of the Christian mainstream but is perfectly in synch with Islam.)

End excerpts.

The reality is Mr. Obama holds an heretical form of Christianity if he holds any at all. He clearly maintains a Christian face, but that is hardly surprising in a nation that may be post-Christian but still strongly influenced by Christian beliefs. If he were to come out as a Muslim, or an Arian, or even a self-worshipper (something that clearly appeals to the man) then his political career would have gone kaput. But we can say with some degree of confidence that he is not a Christian in a meaningful way.

The Catholic Encyclopedia has this to say about Arianism:

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01707c.htm

"But the question how the Son was related to the Father (Himself acknowledged on all hands to be the one Supreme Deity), gave rise, between the years A.D. 60 and 200, to a number of Theosophic systems, called generally Gnosticism,"

[...]

"Such is the genuine doctrine of Arius. Using Greek terms, it denies that the Son is of one essence, nature, or substance with God; He is not consubstantial (homoousios) with the Father, and therefore not like Him, or equal in dignity, or co-eternal, or within the real sphere of Deity. The Logos which St. John exalts is an attribute, Reason, belonging to the Divine nature, not a person distinct from another, and therefore is a Son merely in figure of speech. These consequences follow upon the principle which Arius maintains in his letter to Eusebius of Nicomedia, that the Son "is no part of the Ingenerate." Hence the Arian sectaries who reasoned logically were styled Anomoeans: they said that the Son was "unlike" the Father. And they defined God as simply the Unoriginate. They are also termed the Exucontians (ex ouk onton), because they held the creation of the Son to be out of nothing."

End excerpts.

Please note that the precursor of Arianism was Gnosticism http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06592a.htm, something that has been enjoying a revival in modern times, most notably with "The Da Vinci Code" and other literary works celebrating Gnosticism (like Philip K. Dick's novel Valis). Please note that Gnosticism is characterized as Theosophism. http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14626a.htm

The Nazi hierarchy were Theosophists; most of them were members of the Thule Society http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_thule01.htm, a Theosophistic system that blended all world religions including pagan ones. I find it interesting to note, as Mr. Obama seems to have an affinity with the Fascistic approach to governing, and his religious beliefs seem to emanate from the same system that spawned Nazism. (Be it noted there is no evidence Hitler ever joined Thule, although most of his compatriots - Goebbles, Rosenberg, Himmler, Hess, etc. - did.)

At any rate, Arianism is at the roots of Islam. I don't know if Obama is a Moslem or not (actually, I suspect he is a Theosophist who places himself first and foremost) but he certainly believes much as they believe, and his actions always seem to strengthen the Muslim over the Christian.


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Comment by Conrad C Gabbard on November 18, 2013 at 1:39am

Mohammed presumed to re-define both the Torah and the Gospels, claiming both had been corrupted and his Koran was the only truth where Gospel or Torah are mentioned.   Obama has described the Muslim view of Jesus when claiming to be a Christian.    This, however, is considered Divine Deceit to advance Allah's cause: Taqiyya, in other words.    

Comment by Paul Szemanczky on November 17, 2013 at 8:45am

All I know by far about the man is he is an African communist who is the Manchurian selected by Soros and others for a caliphate one-world decapitation of Christianity starting with the suffocation of the US Euro-Western middle class in compliance with Rino stooges and Democrat sycophants. Like Hitler and Arius (who was assaulted and condemned at the Council of Nicea in 325 A.D.) Obama believes he is from the highest order of angelic humans, both having followers who were insistent on their godliness, and held creeping false illusions of their mysticism.

Comment by Bruce O'H. on November 17, 2013 at 3:16am

Here's the edition of The E-Blast that your article is featured in, Mr. Birdnow...http://e-blast.blogspot.com/

Comment by kate bows on November 15, 2013 at 11:37am

If Obama said,

"So, I'm rooted in the Christian tradition. I believe that there are many paths to the same place,"


He is dead wrong. Christians, followers of Christ and 'his teachings' believe that Jesus is the ONLY way for redemption, and not that there are many ways leading to salvation.

You shall know them by their fruits (their actions as Christ set the example). I do not see one thing about Obama that is like the savior I know. Read it in God's Word about the fruits of the spirit which believers of Christ demonstrate and possess. 

Comment by Conrad C Gabbard on November 14, 2013 at 8:07pm

Well written and informative.    He did not, however, go into detail about what Obama has been doing for the Muslim Brotherhood or the reason they exist (to bring back the worldwide Caliphate).    The Shi'ia obviously do not want to subvert themselves to a Sunni-dominated Caliphate and Obama is trying to pacify them.   Who should lead the Muslim polls for Caliph if the Great Satan can be crippled and the Little Satan isolated?    And we're worrying over Obamacare?

Comment by Timothy Birdnow on November 14, 2013 at 4:39pm

Thanks guys!

Obama is indeed a liar, Debrajoe; couldn't agree more.

Let's hope you are right, Cameron, but I fear some people still do take this jerk seriously.

I think he DOES think he's God, Jacqueline!

Looking forward to seeing it at your site, Bruce!

Comment by Timothy Birdnow on November 14, 2013 at 4:33pm

Comment by Cam Stapel on November 14, 2013 at 2:08pm
If i was him, I would be talking to myself too! No one else listens to him anymore.
Comment by Jacqueline Selby Brooks on November 14, 2013 at 11:33am

Quote: "I have an ongoing conversation with God. Throughout the day I'm constantly asking myself questions about what I'm doing, why am I doing it. "

How can he possibly have an ongoing conversation with God if he is 'constantly' asking himself questions, or does he think he is God?

Comment by Bruce O'H. on November 14, 2013 at 11:06am

Thank you, Mr. Birdnow. I'm bookmarking this for reference. I don't believe that Obama is a Christian. In fact, I've leaned more to him being an atheist like any true Marxist. But, of course, I have no way of knowing conclusively. Your article gives much to ponder on whatever the Hell religion he may be, or not. Thanks again. P.S. I'm posting it in the Sunday Edition of http://e-blast.blogspot.com/

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