Jack E. Kemp

When I visited Israel in the 1990s, I recall walking by a Tel Aviv grade school that had a man carrying an Uzi submachine gun, standing guard over the children at play outside. Yesterday Pamela Geller at Atlas Shrugs had a photo of an Israeli woman grade school teacher carrying a rifle slung over her shoulder as she accompanied her children outside the school. As Pamela's caption reads, in Israel, they provide (armed) protection. In the US, they provide condoms. http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2012/12/media-alert...

There was a time in the frontier West when most women knew how to load and shoot a gun. Many women in the South were and are also adept with guns. Come to think of it, the left is always making an issue of women in the military being given greater combat related assignments. Here is a combat related assignment in the "home guard," a mission that any mother or woman acting in place of a mother can relate to: protecting the lives of her children.

This liberal fantasy of a "gun free zone" around schools invites every mentally unstable person to use it as a target range.Banning LEGAL guns will not stop the banning of ILLEGAL guns by criminals and the insane. As others have pointed out, European countries, with their strict gun control laws, have not stopped massacres. And there are other ways to kill people, readily  available without a license, that can be used to kill people. At the very least, children seeing an armed teacher will not be taught how to be victims in school but rather the opposite.


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Comment by Jeff Smoley on December 19, 2012 at 8:37am

Pilots have a LOT more training and experience in flying before they take command of an airplane compared to even what a combat infantry person gets before going into combat.  

I don't trust the principle to care for the students, he or she should be running the operations of the school. The students are in the care of the individual teachers, who (except for military vets now teaching) have no training in any combat related art.

If teachers have the proper training, I would trust them with a firearm, but I still wouldn't trust them to take on one or more terrorists or mentally unhinged people. 

The ideal place to stop someone intent on harming people at a school is before they get inside. If a (former military) guard (properly armed) at an entrance sees someone walking toward the school with an AR or shotgun or a vest that looks like it is full of explosives, they will have the training and mental attitude to be able to do something.

A teacher with a conceal carry pistol is not the best defense in that situation. They would be the last line of defense, not the first.

I don't want a teacher to have the responsibility without the proper training. I want someone like the men written about in this article: The Last Six Seconds

Comment by Doug Sheets on December 19, 2012 at 8:19am

When I walked the streets in Israel (Haifa) about every 50' was one or two high school age men and women patrolling the streets with REAL machine guns. Each high schooler had to perform 2 years military service after graduation and that was their duty.

And we think we are so smart and "forward" thinking. It's not about safety, it's about control and disarming an increasingly restless citizenry (at least half of us).

Comment by Ronald Robert Sorrells on December 19, 2012 at 8:00am
We have "Trustworthy Americans" and we can protect our people large and small if we have the intestinal fortitude to do so.

You trust a pilot to fly 2000 passengers !

You trust a Principal to care for 400 Elementary students!

Certainly, they can be trusted with a firearm. Most are permitted to carry in states that allow permitting ( off duty).

Merry Christmas,

Comment by Jeff Smoley on December 19, 2012 at 6:59am

Teachers will spend most of their time in the classrooms.

We need a guard at the main entrance (and all other entrances locked from the outside and usable as fire doors from the inside), and a roving guard during the day at a minimum.  When it is time to open the school, both guards will be at the main entrance, making sure that only adults that have proper ID get in.

As soon as the students and faculty get in, the main door is closed & locked, one guard on duty there and the other making sure the other entrances & windows are secure.

If a teacher wants to be armed, they can be after training, but at the teacher's expense.

We need to protect our schools, but also to be able to do it in a cost effective manner so that it is feasible and affordable to as many schools as possible.  

We need combat experienced men & women protecting our children. Until you have been in combat, you never know how you will react. Some people freeze up the first time, we don't want this to happen if that would put the children in danger. Basic training was 8 weeks when I entered the army, then a minimum of 8 more weeks in AIT before you went to your assigned unit. We can't afford to send teachers to 16 weeks of proper training to make them potentially combat effective. Not when we have trained people willing to serve like Ron & I; and I am sure many other veterans.

Ron, Semper Fi to you and thank you for your service. 

There are some really stupid laws on the books regarding firearms. In Florida a working police officer needs to get a CCP to carry when off duty!


Comment by Ray Mason on December 19, 2012 at 6:05am

I'm with Ron Sorrells, every teacher should be trained and armed.  When this became a topic in last Sundays' Bible lesson, (school teachers present), their was shock when I suggested this.  Not everyone, probably because of their upbringing, is comfortable with a defensive weapon.  Those are the "sheeple".  At least give each teacher the option of being an aggressive defender of the children that they teach.  A recent incident in Texas found an armed security guard that took down an armed assailant in the theater lobby.  If a theater can provide protection for their patrons, then surely we can provide security for our children and teachers.  Something must be done.  I submit that even these so called mentally ill killers would think twice about showing up at a school with an armed  guard at the entrance.  Even most crazy people aren't stupid.  Ray

Comment by Jack Kemp on December 18, 2012 at 11:45pm

You know, we have a better, more experienced conversation going here than they will probably have on the floor of the US Senate.

Comment by William Homolka on December 18, 2012 at 9:49pm

Would be better if these "guards" at schools would be undercover with no visible identifying signs that they are armed - something like the sky marshalls currently employed on airlines.  

Comment by Ronald Robert Sorrells on December 18, 2012 at 9:23pm

I Am 68 yrs old and will happy to volunteer myself to protect my high school in my hometown of 2000 citizens.

My father was a Principal and my mother and wife school teachers.

I spent 4 years on active dutyThe Marine Corps in the 1960s and proficient with rifle and handgun. I am permitted to carry a Firearm in Alabama.

I spent 36 years in The United States Civil Service as a substance abuse professional and carried a " Secret Security Clearance" on a United States Army Intallation BUT WAS PROHIBITED FROM CARRYING THE WEAPON THAT I CARRIED OFF THE FEDERAL INSTALLATION ??

Semper Fidelis,

Comment by Jeff Smoley on December 18, 2012 at 9:09pm

Ron, you should read this:  On sheep, wolves and sheepdogs

Not everyone has the training or mindset to defend themselves, much less others. When you have trained sheepdogs, why would you want the sheep to fight?

Comment by Ronald Robert Sorrells on December 18, 2012 at 8:43pm
Teachers need to protect their own lives and the children they teach.


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