Giving up? On Work And On This System Of Government?

Does anyone know exactly when it was that the government started cooking the books on unemployment, and counting people who have given up and left the work force, as "no longer being unemployed"?

Seems to me that that one change in statistic-keeping set the stage for moving people from work onto welfare, and I think it was made during Clinton's regime? Or was it Carter?

It appears to allow them to move people transparently from work to welfare, and the unemployment statistics only look half as bad as they really are. Look at:



The U3 is the figure that makes the politicians look good, and the U6 is reality. Double.


What is it now? Have 35% of the American workers given up looking for work?

Yet Obama still "looks good" because of the U3?


A lot of people have just given up since the election.

A lot have given up finding work and just decided on permanent welfare or disability. Yet the unemployment figures have gone down because they won't count the people who have given up.

Senator Jim DeMint is resigning, two years into his term. I guess he figures, why waste his time trying to get anything done against the insane clowns who oppose fiscal sanity? We're only in for another four years of the same, or far, far worse. Can't say as I blame him.


We all like to feel like we're doing some good in the world, and with our lives, and the U.S. Congress doesn't seem like a way of doing that, these days.


Seems like we're reaching the end of the line for another forced-collectivist system, as they all seem to do eventually.


Can the Congress all be impeached, en masse?


Wishful thinking, I suppose.


It would require an understanding of the principles of freedom, and a willingness to be involved in their own governance, that almost no one has anymore in this country.


Yet I've heard rumors of a Tea Party II movement, even more motivated and ferocious than the first? Dare I hope?


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Comment by Jane Galt on December 11, 2012 at 10:35pm

This was just posted on Galts_Gulch_Objectivists@yahoogroups.com :

I have posted this on several forums about last night's San Diego GOP

Last night was our county's first GOP membership meeting since the
election. Our Central Comittee members are elected for 2 year terms on
the June primary ballot. Last night, after being sworn in and
officerships determined, they voted to unilaterally extend their own
terms to 4 years. This with the full support of both the county and
state chair. I spoke to some after the meeting and the reasoning was
that the GOP is preparing to completely throw in the towel on
conservatism and wants it's CC members to insulate themselves from the
expected outrage among not only the Tea Party but the rank and file
membership of the GOP in 2014, this "anger and threats" are all a GOP
leadership smokescreen. They are actively preparing to join in lock,
stock and barrell with Obama, they know it and while they blow out hot
air, they are changing party rules and policies to stay in power long
after their betrayal.

Comment by Frank Chance Chenoweth on December 10, 2012 at 9:42am

Tea Party II!  Awesome!

  --Frank Nitty

Comment by Clark Rice Jr. on December 9, 2012 at 4:25am

When might we see or hear what is up with the Tea Part 2 ? Any ideas on that anyone ?

Comment by Richie Laxton on December 9, 2012 at 3:47am

The new way of calculating unemployment became official in 1994. However, the idea to tinker with the numbers came about during the first Bush administration. Most economists look at the U6 number which is closer to the real picture of unemployment or under employment.

Comment by Lori Gibson on December 9, 2012 at 3:46am
Many conservatives were hoping that after the Tea Party made it possible for Republicans to win back the House, that they would unite & work together to defeat Obama in 2012 & get the economy back to sanity ! I was hopeful yet afraid Republican leadership would discard the very group that got them elected (Tea Party) & fail to uphold conservative principals that hold the country together under our Constitution! Unless they reverse their failure path, the Tea Party movement will be forced into another level where they become an official 3rd party or replace the Republican Party altogether! We are running out of time & can no longer afford more failure from Republicans allowing criminal Communist Obama to completely turn America into a bankrupt WASTELAND!
Comment by Doug Nicholson on December 8, 2012 at 11:25pm

@Darlene Meredith: Also, remember that God helps those who help themselves.

I agree with several others here that we need to take constructive, positive action now!  Whether that means a new, truly conservative political party or infiltrating the Rino Republican party, I'm all for it. The only concern about the second option I have is that I think it will take too long for our infiltrators to reach positions of power and influence to do any good. We are rapidly running out of time!

Comment by James H .Eblen on December 8, 2012 at 9:10pm

Sgt Grumpy: Join me in reminding every veteran and active duty personnel that they are to remember their oath. OBEY IT!

James H. Eblen

M/Sgt USAF Retired

Oath Keeper

Comment by SgtGrumpy on December 8, 2012 at 6:44pm

David Estes; That page has been removed from Politico. Anything else?

Semper Fi

Comment by william e grant on December 8, 2012 at 5:48pm


Comment by brad rebers on December 8, 2012 at 12:56pm

Hopefully This Tea Party movement will do something about Boehner and RINO Republicans.


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