There have been many questions about the legitimacy of the extremely intrusive questions on the current and most recent government census. I have recently been instructed that the census given to those in the agricultural industry is even more intrusive than those given to the average home owner; asking questions like how many bales of hay and how many pieces of equipment of 40 horsepower or more. In response to these questions I have prepared a brief summary of the purpose of the census, not according to my opinion, but those that drafted, debated, and ratified Article 1 Section 2 Clause 3 of the Constitution. I hope this will help us to understand how unconstitutional these census questions really are.
Understanding the purpose of the census is fundamental to understanding its limitations. The purpose of the census was two-fold; the apportionment of representatives and the levying of taxes. Neither of these things is to be determined by property, but by numbers of persons alone. The reason for the census was to keep the federal government from arbitrarily laying taxes and apportioning unequal suffrage to the states.
“Let it be recollected, that the proportion of these taxes is not to be left to the discretion of the national Legislature: but is to be determined by the numbers of each State as described in the second section of the first article. An actual census or enumeration of the people must furnish the rule; a circumstance which effectually shuts the door to partiality or oppression. The abuse of this power of taxation seems to have been provided against with guarded circumspection. In addition to the precaution just mentioned, there is a provision that all duties, imposts and excises shall be UNIFORM throughout the United States.” (Alexander Hamilton Federalist Paper 36)
James Madison makes it clear in Federalist Paper 54 that it is the “fundamental principle of the proposed Constitution, that as the aggregate number of representatives allotted to the several States, is to be determined by a federal rule founded on the aggregate number of inhabitants… who will be included in the census by which the Federal Constitution apportions the representatives. We have hitherto proceeded on the idea that representation related to persons only, and not at all to property.
Therefore the purpose and mechanism of the census is to numbers of people alone and not property…at all.
The current census does a whole lot more than count numbers of people, it counts property as well. If the framers of the nation said that property is NOT the subject of the census, on what authority can the government include this in the current census? The logical answer is that they cannot. They only mechanism that allows them to do this is what our framers called a “forced construction” of the Constitution.
If you go to the government’s website on the census they will assure you that the current census is lawful because the courts say so. However, that is not the standard our founders laid as the test to legitimacy. Our founders said the Constitution, not the will of the government, is the only true judge of the government’s power. Let’s look at the government’s reasoning as it compares to the drafters’ limitations on government.
Government: In 1954, Congress codified earlier census acts and all other statutes authorizing the decennial census as Title 13, U.S. Code. Title 13, U.S. Code, does not specify which subjects or questions are to be included in the decennial census. However, it does require the Census Bureau to notify Congress of general census subjects to be addressed 3 years before the decennial census and the actual questions to be asked 2 years before the decennial census.
Founders: Let it be recollected, that the proportion of these taxes is not to be left to the discretion of the national Legislature: but is to be determined by the numbers of each State as described in the second section of the first article. An actual census or enumeration of the people must furnish the rule; Alexander Hamilton Fed. Paper #36
Government: The Legal Tender Cases, Tex.1870; 12 Wall., U.S., 457, 536, 20 L.Ed. 287. In 1901, a District Court said the Constitution's census clause (Art. 1, Sec. 2, Clause 3) is not limited to a headcount of the population and "does not prohibit the gathering of other statistics.”
Founders: “If the decision of the judiciary be raised above the authority of the [states]… dangerous powers, not delegated, may not only be usurped and executed by the other departments, but that the judicial department, also, may exercise or sanction dangerous powers beyond the grant of the Constitution… James Madison,Virginia Assembly Report of 1800
"No legislative act, therefore, contrary to the Constitution, can be valid. To deny this, would be to affirm, that the deputy is greater than his principal; that the servant is above his master; that the representatives of the people are superior to the people themselves; that men acting by virtue of powers, may do not only what their powers do not authorize, but what they forbid." Alexander Hamilton Federalist Paper #78
Government: The census does not violate the Fourth Amendment. Morales v. Daley, 116 F. Supp. 2d 801, 820 (S.D. Tex. 2000). In concluding that there was no basis for holding Census 2000 unconstitutional, the District Court in Morales ruled that the 2000 Census and the 2000 Census questions did not violate the Fourth Amendment or other constitutional provisions as alleged by plaintiffs. (The Morales court said responses to census questions are not a violation of a citizen's right to privacy or speech.)
Founders: When told the government had the right to search the colonists property to ensure compliance with the taxes through the mechanism of writs of assistance, James Otis Jr told the court that this power “appears to me the worst instrument of arbitrary power, the most destructive of English liberty and the fundamental principles of law, that ever was found in an English law-book.”
The federal government does not have the authority to assume a power simply because it is not forbidden. To argue that the “Constitution doesn’t say we can’t do it” is the height of Constitutional heresy! The powers delegated to the federal government are enumerated. If a power is not part of that enumeration it is not a power that belongs to the federal government but to the States! To claim otherwise is theft of State power.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (10th Amendment)
A Republican Federalist in paper No. 5 stated that “the provision in the system for a representation of the people, which is the corner stone of a free government.” If creating a census was a mechanism to protect the “corner stone of a free government” surely our framers would not have authorized the federal government to engage in principles contrary to that cause though the use of that very mechanism.
The government’s attempt to place property into the national census appears to me to be a mechanism to collect information regarding our personal property with the purpose to tax it in the future. I also believe the federal government is trying to bring under its control “unauthorized” agricultural activity.
Here is the description of one of the USDA propaganda videos promoting the census:
“How many baseballs could come from the cows American farmers produce? How much college tuition could be paid by U.S. farm income? How many acres of farmland are in conservation programs? These are some of the many things we can learn when U.S. farmers and ranchers respond to USDA's National Agricultural Statistics Service's agricultural surveys. See some of these fun facts brought to life. Learn how important agriculture is to America and the many ways farmers, ranchers and their rural communities benefit from accurate survey responses.”
Sounds like the Feds are licking their chops at another revenue stream. You farmers alone can pay college tuition for “every student for 3 years.” Conservation programs? Seems like I’ve heard that one 21 times before?
Since the Federal government and the courts are aligned against these principles, there is no protection that can be expected from such a tyrannical government. The only true limitation and check on governmental power is the people. “That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.” (Declaration of Independence) We have the right and authority to say we will not allow the transgressing of our rights. We have the power and the right to say, NO! We will not comply.
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Comment by Gary Hall on February 8, 2013 at 7:19pm I had my own unpleasant experience with the Census Bureau and their American Community Survey.
http://theindependentrant.com/2011/03/23/my-fight-with-the-us-depar...
After becoming thoroughly annoyed I wrote my Senator, who passed my concerns on to Angela Manso, Chief of the Office of Congressional and Intergovernmental Affairs.
http://theindependentrant.com/2011/05/22/the-american-community-sur...
The harassment continued for approximately 6 months, after which I was informed that my case was "closed" and that I would be called on in another 1-5 years to repeat the process.
A few of the workers even went so far as to threaten me with a federal marshal should I refuse to fill out "at least some of the questions". To which I responded, "I want to meet the judge that will issue an arrest warrant for 'resident'".
Comment by Linny Redd on February 7, 2013 at 7:11pm JUST SAY "NO"!
Comment by Thomas "Max" Jonker on February 7, 2013 at 5:40pm 148 Days past 9 11 and Benghazi
Bless you, my child. Since retirement I had been an occasional Day Worker for this Plantation.
Just to jog some faded memories, Obama appointed a nice RINO to be his Secretary of Commerce. Among Barry's first orders of business was his announcement that the White House would personally take over the Administration of the US Census. His next was his acceptance of the resignation of his new Secretary of Commerce.
Then he proclaimed that ACORN would be his working partner in conducting the Census. The Breitbart Scandal forced some name changes, but the de facto faces remained unchanged.
I happened to be in Training Class on the morning of the Inauguration. Wrongly, I had assumed my fellow government employees would witness the Oath of our new Boss on TV. The jobs we were being trained to perform, went into Limbo. Eventually, none of us actually saw any of the promised field work.
I was called upon again a year later. Training had devolved from Software to Pencil and Paper. ACORNians were everywhere.
Our work dissipated as suddenly as it had begun, again. We never earned enough to be considered technically eligible for unemployment. ( I missed this threshhold by less than one day). Uncle Sam was out the cost of our training - twice. Multiply me by untold thousands.
Apparently Hiring was a hashmark on Obama's "new jobs" list, no matter how short its duration.
The US Census is a provision of the Constitution of The United States.
As our firebrand affirms, Obama's Census defied our Founding Principles at every turn.
I have no particular objection to Congress' use of this information to form Voting Districts, but the opportunites for voting fraud magnify.
And, for you youngsters, Nixon likely won the 1960 Election, but declined to challenge the Chicago Tally fearing it would undermine America's confidence in our Democratic process. Imagine, that.
MAX
Comment by Nancy on February 7, 2013 at 1:29pm @Charles D. Payne. . .you have been more than harassed IMO. . .please consider contacting "The Rutherford Institute" with your information. . .(I am not affiliated with them in anyway, just know that they are on our side against this intrusive govt):
https://www.rutherford.org/legal_assistance/
https://www.rutherford.org/files_images/general/03-22-2012_Letter_A...
https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/tri_in_the_news/c...
Comment by Sister Marie tatina on February 7, 2013 at 1:00pm
Comment by Debbie Tallman on February 7, 2013 at 12:58pm Looks like we're not alone. We got the LONG census questionnaire too. Received it twice, didn't answer it twice. Got a total of 17 phone calls, sometimes 2 and 3 a day. Of course we didn't answer. We haven't been physically visited, yet, that we know of. Sure seems to be a lot of Conservatives getting these questionnaires. Hmmm...
Comment by Doug Nicholson on February 7, 2013 at 12:07pm Unfortunately, I only got the basic, Constitutional form, which I had no problem completing and submitting. But I was soooo looking forward to completing the extended, unconstitutional form with "NOYB" (None Of Your Business) in every block! Maybe next time!
Comment by Terry Mitchell on February 7, 2013 at 11:47am I dutifully filled out the last official (2010) census, but a few months later was informed by mail that I was one of the lucky individuals selected for an additional census survey (which was even more intrusive than the first), and that I was required by law, under financial penalty, to answer.
I ignored them, but they repeatedly called my home at all hours, sent different people to my home leaving messages on the door when I never answered their knocks, sent multiple mailings and generally kept up the threats for a couple of months as to what would happen if I failed to comply by a certain deadline.
The deadline came and went and I never heard from them again, and they never heard from me.
Assuming we still have a country when the next official census rolls around (2020?) I do not plan on answering it at all.
Comment by Scott Casteel on February 7, 2013 at 10:50am Wish I had seen this b4 sending mine in. They even asked how much I sold my stock for. I dont remember that from previous years.
Comment by Jo Gonzalez on February 7, 2013 at 10:35am Just say "No".
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