There’s an attempt in progress by liberals to create a primary system which allows anyone, regardless of party affiliation, to vote in the primary. Their claim is that “independents” are shut out of the primary process. Here in Arizona, such a ballot proposition is being attempted at present.
We know what’s really going on is that the so-called “independents” driving this are not “independents” at all, but rather Liberals who want to determine which Republicans will be on the ballot – obviously, the most liberal who call themselves Republicans. They could then plant liberals who claim to be "Republicans" and who campaign using Republican language, subsequently voting them onto the Republican ballot. That way, they couldn't lose in the general election, getting a Democrat elected or a Democrat who claims to be a Republican elected.
My suggestion is that the Republican Party should become a private organization, like membership at the Augusta National Golf Club, for example. Women may not play at that course and it’s perfectly legal that the rule stands because it’s a private club. Just as you may admit or not admit anyone you please for any reason in your own home, a private club may do the same. Thus, as a private club, the Republican Party could pay for its own primary elections – excluding any non-member from voting – and then place winning individuals on the general election ballot. In the meantime, independents could vote for whoever they wish from among the remaining, non-Republican candidates. In Maine, Angus King ran for governor as an Independent, and won. Their claim is bogus in the first place. One could also make the case that they’re striving for a single-party system, such as that found in China, Cuba or any other dictatorial nation.
What the Left is attempting here is perfectly transparent. Let’s not allow them to get away with it.
Jeff Dover
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Comment by Chas Jones on August 20, 2012 at 1:57pm To Ronald Robert Sorrells:
As far as I am aware, every ballot in the united States permits "Write-In" voting. So it would seem to me the way you are seeking already exists. Every voter may vote for a Party nominee or write in a name of their choosing.
What more do you seek or need?
Comment by Ronald Sorrells on August 20, 2012 at 8:07am The American Election "Process" has become a "Las Vegas Event" similiar to Wallstreet, Chicago Money Exchange and Competitive Sports Gaming !
We simply must find "A Way" for The Citizens of The United States of America "To Cast their ballots for the leaders they want in a legitimate way where every ballot, of every citizen is properly counted and registered to be in Full Compliance with the "Words & Intent" of The Constitution of The United States of America.
To do otherwise is "Corruption of the highest order" !
Semper Fi,
Ron
Robert,
Thanks for your feedback!
Yeah, I am disappointed in Speaker Boehner's lack of assertion too! He has admitted that he has tried. He is in a tough position, attempting to satisfy a lot of voices. The House has submitted several plans which have been smothered by Harry Reid. Still...
"Creativiity is missing in the Republican controlled House of Representitves!"
Numbers don't lie. The muscle in the party is in the South, Great Plains and Mountain States. We have two fairly strong Midwestern states in Indiana and Ohio, which seem to be trending "red." Overall, however, there seems to be an overall lack of representation from the states that account for the electoral college votes.
True, this may be like "bringing a stick to a gun fight." I see it more as an exercise of "playing chicken." We want people from the Northeast in the party. But they should accordingly "take a back seat to decisions and candidate selections." They have only the voters of their states to blame if they are unhappy with the arrangement.
Comment by Chas Jones on August 20, 2012 at 7:37am In follow up to my prior post:
People who get involved took the GOP and democrat Party where they have gone and been. TEA Party folks have, almost entirely, seen fit to seek to obtain influence, even control of, the GOP in order to move it in a different direction.
Enemies of constitutions and individual Liberty have done the same. It has been apathy, inactivity especially during Primaries, and indifference by MANY, that enabled enemies of Liberty to implement their policies.
The 2 Party system was NOT and IS not the problem. Action OR inaction by lovers and defenders of Liberty allowed enemies to have their way and is NOW allowing US to seek to reverse their influence and destructive actions and policies.
Politics is "war by ballot" rather than constant civil wars and revolutions which would greatly limit if not destroy any nation.
Sadly, far to many Citizens became lazy, apathetic, and unconcerned regarding what our founding father's rightly called our civic DUTY. In a government of self-governing individuals under written constitutions and Rule of valid Law, enemies of Liberty are more easily identified and defeated. Far to many of us in the united States focused solely on other interests leaving our civic duty to lapse.
In TRUTH, it requires a very small effort and amounts of time to study our Scriptures and civic History and founding principles, values, and documents. Yet most fail to do even that. That failure got us into this mess ... and only a reversal of that failure will enable us to restore and defend our republic and our Liberty.
FREEDOM is NEVER Free, nor easy. And many enemies BOTH foreign AND domestic seek to strip it from US. Wake Up, organize, and Get Busy! And let US Hope it is NOT to late.
Comment by Chas Jones on August 20, 2012 at 7:18am Let folks register under any Party they choose. If that Party has no candidate on the ballot then only the Parties with candidates need or should have voters casting ballots.
Let me be crystal clear ... or at least try to be. Only republicans should choose the republican nominee. Only democrats should choose the democrat nominee, and so on for each Party.
Selecting our candidates is far to important to allow games playing and shenanigans ... By Anyone for any reason or purpose.
Comment by Thomas on August 20, 2012 at 6:43am By the way, it was the ability of the Republicans to vote in the Democrat primary in Georgia that enabled Lester Maddox to be elected governor of Georgia almost half a century ago.....1966, I believe. Had it not been for the Republican votes for Lester in the Democrat primary there would have been no way that he would have been on the general election ballot. But then, even though Lester was a highschool dropout who had become a somewhat successful entrepreneur, Lester was honest. He won in the primary against a run of the mill BS Democrat Party establishment politician and then won in the general election against a Republican who was a pretty slick dude.
It wasn't the end of the world as we know it.
Comment by Thomas on August 20, 2012 at 6:23am For primary elections, why not consider all voters independent and when they show up at the polls for the primary election geve each person multiple party ballots and give each one the opportunity to vote in the primary elections of all parties who have candidates who have qualified to run in a race. That way, as a conservative, you would get the chance to vote for the Republicans who you believe to be most suited for the job as well as vote for whomever you consider to be the most suitable Democrat, Green, Liberatarian, New Whig, American Centrist and whichever other parties have candidates in the primary. I like the idea of being able to use my votes to "tilt" the balance of the general election toward the conservative side by selecting the person who I think is the most conservative candidate from the choices that each of the parties has put on the ballot. My bet is that, with time, such a primary system would induce both major parties to come out of the high weeds way out on the right and the left sides of the road and get back on the road to the real future that we need to travel as a nation and as a people.
Would there be people from each of the parties trying to "play games" by voting for whomever they consider to be the weakest candidate and least likely to win the general election for the opposing party? Of course. But with a system of elections that is already as corrupt as ours, so what. Still.....for those of us who take the process seriously there would be an added opportunity to cast serious votes in an effort to get a field of serious people as candidates on the general election ballot. I believe that we who wish to have honest, competent governance would have a better chance of having just that if we have the opportunity to vote against the biggest crooks in all parties in the primary.
Comment by Robert Kenney on August 20, 2012 at 3:39am So how does that leave the Tea Party in terms of participation?As a TP supporter here in Ms. I certainly don't see the Republican Party as anything but complicit in much that has happened and even now people like John Boehner leave me wondering how a spineless person like him got to be speaker ,he has actually capitulated defeat after he has won.Have you not heard of his "freshly laundered White Flag" I submit that we should be shoulder to shoulder working to stop the arming of our government ,training of them to put down citizen revolt and TSA gulags to house the rest.We should act as if we are in an emergency situation as we are,and not worry about decorum and meeting rules while we are not prepared to fight off a take over of our country.Your a nice guy Jeff and a good writer,but you are bringing a stick to a gun fight.Now if you could get the Republican Social Club to start working with the Tea Party and help us rid the Government of the RINO's that are so prevalent,well then I'm with you 100%.
Jeff Dover,
I am not certain if I agree that Independents aren't less on conservative principles. My parents were very conservative. But they were professed Independents. They said that they "voted for the man and not the party."
Granted, things have changed since the late sixties and early seventies. They lived in South Arkansas. At that time Arkansas was solidly Democrat. My parents voted for Goldwater in 1964, Wallace in 1968 and Nixon in 1972. This was pretty much the norm for a lot of people in that part of the country. Still, they were literally "Independents."
When I speak of reaching out for people outside the conservative base, I am referencing two groups: "blue collar Democrats, AKA Nascar Dads," and "Disaffecteds." Please consult the June 16th, 2011 story in National Review. It sheds a lot of light on a key voting bloc nobody is discussing. Most of these voters are Independents.
Comment by Sue Carroll on August 19, 2012 at 4:09pm I believe independents can ask for either a Dem or GOP ballot when they go to vote. I think this should not happen. If you wish to register Ind or Und, you lose the opportunity to vote in the primary. I know in my town, 2 far left neighbors register Und to sway whichever party they wish.
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