I suspect everyone has heard the conspiracy theories concerning the FEMA Camps that have been set up around the country at former military bases. According to what we read, these facilities are "planned" as containment camps for dissident members of our population (all that oppose the Obama regime).
It's my understanding that the original intent of these FEMA Camps were to temporarily house displaced refugees in the event of a major dissaster, such as Katrina. In fact, the idea to use former Military bases for this was initiated shortly after the Katrina fiasco of re-locating those made homeless in New Orleans to other parts of the country. As we may recall, relocating many of those folks created problems in other cities where they were sent. So, this idea of setting up FEMA facilities as temporary housing of people made homeless by natural or man-made dissasters seemed like a good idea, right? Sounded like a good idea to me.
However, there have been several natural dissasters since these facilities have been set up, yet, I don't recall hearing of any of these camps being used to shelter the displaced victems. Have you? After Hurricane Sandy hit the NYC area, did any of the folks that lost their homes get sent to a nearby FEMA refugee camp? I haven't heard about it, if they were. Instead, FEMA set up tents for those who had nowhere to stay. And many temporary food kitchens were set up by private charities, such as "Mercy Chefs" and other charitable organizations.
Now, back to the conspiracy theories.
Infowars.com has many stories concerning the stocking of millions of MRE's, Medical supplies, and other items, "intended" to be used in housing all of us "dissenters" as political prisoners. Some believe that the FEMA camps are going to be used as "slave work camps" or "death camps", like the Nazi's used to contain the Jews, or as the former USSR had for their polical "undesireables". Razor wire was being installed on top of the parimiter fences of these former bases, presumably to keep people in. I saw one report in which thousands of coffins were being stored at some of these facilities. That right there was suppose to be proof that the government was going to be exterminating many of us.
But then I got to thinking about this. This "coffin" business didn't fit in with the normal shennanigans of a totalitarian regime, in regards to disposing of the remains after mass executions. Why would a totalitarian government spend the time and money to dispose of the dead with individual coffins and burials? THEY WOULDN'T! Instead, the government would simply scoop out a big trench with a bulldozer or large backhoe, and just throw the dead bodies in by the hundreds or thousands and cover them up. I doubt they'd even bother with body bags.
The reasonably nutricious MRE's don't make allot of sense either. Political prisoners would likely be fed tasteless meals that barely keep a person alive.
So, if these FEMA facilities aren't being used to temporarily house dissaster refugees, and a dispotic government wouldn't likely use them for political dissidents, what else could these camps be intended for?
My guess.... these facilities are being saved as retreats for the communists and NWO proponants in our midst. They know that a total economic collapse is eminent, and when it hits, the S*** is going to hit the fan big time. There will likely be rioting/looting in the streets when paper money becomes totally worthless, transportation of food stocks to grocery stores grinds to a halt, and the grid starts going down over a large portion of the country. THIS, in my opinion as well as many others, is the desired goal of the communists. Remember the Cloward-Pevin Plan?
There WILL be much chaos and death suffered by the general population of this country. Add to the rioting/ looting, and the killing that will result (this will start in the major cities firswt), wide spread starvation, death from exposure to the eliments, and uncontrolable disease, the communists will get their desired "population reduction", without lifting a finger. They figure we can do that to ourselves. But, the communists don't want to be a part of that suffering. So, what better way to avoid it (and in sufficient safety), than setting up these FEMA retreats (or highly defendable hide aways) for themselves. They will be able to comfortably "ride out the storm" for how ever many years needed, well protected from the looting hordes that will form. Notice that I said YEARS? That's right, the results of a total collapse of our economy will likely last a long time, before any ressemblace to "normalcy" begins to appear. In the mean time, those of us on the outside will have to survive the best we can, the "Law of Survival" being the only form of "law" in force. Those of us that haven't prepared to be totally self-reliant and self-sustaining during this upcoming period of chaos will likely parish. Those that have, have a better chance, but it won't be easy.
Now, let's look at the defensable nature of these FEMA Camps, or should I say "communes". Most, if not all, will have self-sustainable power generation equipment, making reliance on current electrical power sources a non-issue. Most, if not all, have airstrips, which will make travel between the facilities pretty convenient and safe for the occupants. These airstrips can also facilitate the "airlifting" of supplies and stores, from unknown supply warehouses, to the camps. They can also be used for airial recon flights over areas ourside the facilities, to keep an eye on what we're all up to. UN/NWO military forces will also be able to fly into these facilities when it is deemed to be the appropriate time to launch operations to gather up what ever is left of our population, and finally install the NWO socialist State of the USSA (or what ever they plan to call this country afterwards)
From what I've read, the former military bases that have been set up, have very wide open parimitters between the outer fences and the compound structures. These open areas will be good for farming operations (eating MRE's is going to get old pretty quick) inside the base paramiters as well as highly defendable buffer zones. That razor wire I mentioned earlier isn't to keep people in, but rather to keep "us" out. An appropiate number of machine gun positions, well back from the fences, would easily be able to cut down any one that breaches the fense. Morters and lite artilery within the facility could easily disspense with any large gathering of starving "hordes" outside the fenses or nearby, that may be considered a threat to the facility.
YOu may be asking yourself, by now, how long will these communists/NWO proponants hide out within these FEMA communes? That depends on whether the government can confiscate our fire arms or not. As I see it right now, the powers that be could pull the rug out from under our economy at any time. I believe they are atrificailly keeping the economy afloat (we jumped off this so-called fiscal cliff decades ago) But, in order for the take over of our country can be reasonably assured, THEY have to dissarm us first. Once they've done that, they'll crash our economy and let the chaos that will follow take its toll on the population. I don't see gun confiscation happening, not completely that is. And if they can't do it at all, they'll just have to stay hunkered down in their retreats longer. You can bet that THEY'LL be heavily armed, in either case. This is why it is so imparative that We the People keep our fire arms and stock up on all the ammo we can. Resistance IS NOT futile, it is an extreme necessity.
Given what I have layed out here, I think we can safely forget about being rounded up and imprisoned in these FEMA Camps. I don't believe they're intended for that, now.
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Comment by John Wiant on December 31, 2012 at 3:01am Interesting stuff Jerry. I wonder if those "camps" aren't a little more obvious than all that? I see a few trends that have been discussed below which push me to a different conclusion: (while we're throwing theories around here).......
The US is doing flaky things with money and spending it (on non profitable stuff, to be nice).......like crazy. IF the dollar becomes a joke, there will obviously be instant chaos; just add water.
So, it's even more predictable that the REST of the planet Earth will become even more unstable than the US will, and then there will be lots of concerns about our borders etc. (for a change). Therefore, I would suspect the troops we have all over the world will need to return here, to protect "us" and to retain those resources of the Government. The one thing everyone SHOULD be able to agree on is that the Government has become something of a "monster" that is determined to feed itself and is already out of control getting bigger and bigger / with or without any further feedback from the PEOPLE (who used to be involved in what it does and who its members are). So, if the world is suddenly in Chaos, and the foreign military bases all close and all the people living in other countries are rapidly coming back to the US, the first question to answer is: Under chaotic conditions, where do we PUT all those people? So, these "camps" could be lots of military people, lots of their families, all the other "diplomats" and other government subcontractors etc. (maybe some CIA people, etc.), and all their families, and it adds up pretty quickly to a huge chunk of people. If the whole world is suddenly going to crap, their all being brought back here might be a GOOD thing. If the Government thinks that us ordinary "hillbilly" types are dangerous and unpredictable, I can see why they would think they need to all get stuck in places where the military has to protect them all / to protect themselves. Furthermore, I also suspect the Government may well speculate that "foreign invaders" may start showing up here in large numbers fairly quickly as well, and it might be hard for the Government to sort out who is who, if the whole world is mad and hungry all of a sudden. Having said all that, I can't predict if anyone reading this might think my theory is better or WORSE than yours; because mine might be more realistic, but it actually may contain assumptions that things could get much much worse / world wide, than most of like to imagine. Ideally, we're both wrong and it's actually more like a place(s) for the government to start the Green agenda in large places uninterrupted by non scientific people. :)
Dean,
To help you out on the temperature differences, the higher you go in elevation the cooler it gets. Mt Kilominjaro is very near the equator, setting right in the middle of teh Sarangheti Plain. It's peak is over 19K ft above sea level and maintains a glacial cap year round. It could be 100 degrees in downtown Houston, while 12-14k ft straight up it will be below freezing (32 degrees F) with colder temps the higher you go. Pikes Peak, in Colorado, is over 14k ft above sea level, the only percipitation it sees at the top is in the form of snow, even in the summer.
The reason aircraft fly at such high altitudes is that the air is less dense the higher the alt. This means less resistance and faster gound speed without expending more fuel. Most coast to coast commercial flights and international flights will fly above 35K ft. Short flights won't bother to climb so high.
BTW, those "expert" commercial pilots who said that it would be impossible for those Saudi's to fly a commercial jet liner, apparently haven't set in front of a PC and used a flight simulation program. A person can get quite familiar with an aircrafts flight charactoristics and controls with these programs. Although I have no flight training in a real airplane, I'm confident that I could take off and land a small aircraft, and I could probably land a larger commercial aircraft if I had too (without tearing up all the landing gear). Taking the controls of a plane already in the air and crashing it into a building would be a piece of cake.
Comment by Dean on December 31, 2012 at 1:26am Hi Jerry,
Good points. The Chemtrail/Contrail debate isn't really my niche. But I have read some pretty smart people who have made some pretty compelling arguments. I just haven't researched it that much. My understanding is that it has something to do with "seeding" the atmosphere (much like they did to try to cause rain) rather than spraying the people. What was analyzed on the ground as fallout wasn't "crystals" or anything visible at all. I just know there have been people who have done soil samples in areas with heavy "trail" activity. It still seems that NO trails would remain visible for hours and not dissipate in the hot DFW and Houston summer sun where I have lived. This is a topic where I'd like to learn more and yield to those more knowledgeable. More importantly, I agree with your FEMA camp premise and applaud your taking the time to write it and get the word out. Thanks much. D
Dean,
CONtrails begin to occur at about 12k ft altitude. At that Altitude, the trails will be short, and dissipate rather quickly. But teh higher the aircraft flies, the longer the trails become. Those that you see, that appear to stretch from horizon to horizon, are left by aircraft that are flying at 30k ft or higher.
What we see from the ground is the frozen condensation (ice crystals) created by the engines. These ice crystals then drift downward until they reach warmer air and melt into tiny water droplets, which soon evaporate. So the higher these ice crystal are formed, the longer it takes them to slowly drift down to the warmer air and melt. Cross winds at varying altitudes will often scatter these contrails, but if the enitre air mass is moving the same, the trail may stay together, and it could carry these trails for hundreds of miles or better before the ice crystals drift down to warmer air. By the time anything that might be sprayed from high altitude reaches the ground (if it even does) it will be so sparsely distributed that you'd be lucky to detect less than 1 ppm of the sprayed substance.
Spraying from high altitude would be the most costly and least effective means of attempting to contaminate the ground that could be thought up. If someone wants to spray stuff on us, they'll do it a lower altitude (between 2k and 3k ft) and at night, so we can't see it. More effective that way.
BTW, piston driven prop planes capable of flying at the higher altitudes, such as WWII bombers and fighter aircraft can also leave contrails.
Comment by Dean on December 30, 2012 at 10:32pm You're exactly right, Kris. They don't eat GMO or pesticide laden foods. They don't get injected with phony vaccines or flu shots. They (we) funded the communists and the nazis. Result? Over 100 million dead. They are behind the UN, Agenda 21, The Codex Alimentarius and phony "global warming". They have been pretty open that they want a world population of 500MM to 1B (someone has to do the work and be drones). What's really funny is the people helping make this happen who think they will be included when the doors swing shut and leave them out in the cold. I believe 100% that there are compounds - just underground and in mountainside retreats. Read what they say in their own words: http://nwosurvivalguide.com/
Comment by Kristin Fecteau on December 30, 2012 at 10:08pm Glenn Beck also laughs derisively at anyone who thinks the long form birth certificate of Obama is fake, though it has been thoroughly proved so by many scholars and Sheriff Joe's team many times over. So simply saying "Beck debunked FEMA camps" is not a very reliable source. Where DO you think these New World Order controllers are going to go when the kaka hits the fan? They are the ones who stirred up the whole "1%" thing, they ain't gonna stick around and be killed and have no food or security with the rest of us peons. This theory makes perfect sense. Well if the Powers-that-be don't go to FEMA camps, they WILL go to some kind of bunkers. We KNOW the Feds have bought literally BILLIONS of rounds of ammo, and heirloom seeds (yawn, nothing to see here, move on...., right???) Why the hell would they? BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT'S COMING, THEY HAVE ORCHESTRATED THIS.
Comment by Dean on December 30, 2012 at 9:49pm 1. Jones is a provacateur (do a youtube search). Just enough truth. And when the NWO comes, they have a nice data mining list of people to round up. He just happened to appear when Stratfor did, both in Austin. 2. Beck is a shill. Just enough truth. He believes that a guy in a cave with a laptop pulled off 911, even though there are hundreds of credible professionals (architects, engineers, scientists, et al) who have proven much of the govt line is crap. 3. I've seen several postings of the FEMA camp that that's a rennovated train station with alleged ovens and concertina wire. All the same video from different angles. Also boxcars with shackles. 4. Chemtrails are very much a real thing. Sorry Jerry. Contrails occur when hot jet exhaust hits cold air at altitude. They dissipate quickly. CHEMTRAILS have been photographed all over the US for decades and they linger for HOURS. People have done soil studies beneath such areas and found very high concentrations metallic compounds. Hundreds of percentage points higher than normal. 4. Good theory on the bases, but I don't agree in total. I've been a student of Conspiracy Fact for over 20 years. What the government is good at is misinformation. I believe there are hundreds of massive UNDERGROUND bases for the purpose you state. The device used to dig the Chunnel between England and France has been around for decades. I guarantee they have far more sophiticated equipment now. How long did we have stealth tech before we knew about it? The above-ground bases are just so they can give morons the ability to constantly babble "conspiracy theory" about things they are too stupid to understand. I believe they are diverting billions in resources to the underground bases to prepare for the absolute imminent collapse of this country. You simply can't print and borrow trillions without a collapse. Period. Cloward Piven is staring us right in the face as sure as Mein Kampf was available spelling out the plan back then. WE are the Weimar Republic. I talked about Echelon for years and was scoffed at as a conspiracy nut. Oops... exposed by the "media" under Bush. I agree with your concept, just not where the bases are. Best regards.
http://www.examiner.com/article/major-columnist-legitimizes-theory-...
And for the morons that tell you things they don't understand are "conspiracy theory" send them this article by the great Dr. Paul Craig Roberts: http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2011/06/20/conspiracy-theory/
Comment by Carolyn Wegener on December 30, 2012 at 8:39pm Nearby Michigan (Saginaw and Midland county line) resident sold their LARGE family estate (14 bedroom home within many, many acres of woods) for BIG bucks ... to federal government ... who paid them in CASH. Complete area now fenced. Locals haven't seen activity in the area for over one year now. You can be sure the locals have their ideas as to what this is all about ! :)
Define "aliens", Vern. LOL
I don't put much credence in infowars. The guy that runs the site is making a $killing$ in advertising on his site and radio show, with all the fear mongering he's putting out. My knowledge of atmospherics and aviation (though rather limited) tells me that the "chemtrail" conspiracies are BS.
Comment by Vern Shotwell on December 30, 2012 at 5:40pm Thanks, Jerry
To my simple mind, your explanation makes as much sense as what finds at Infowars.com, if not more.
Now their thousands of articles about Aliens among us...that stuff is real, right?
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