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Jeff,

You're very welcome for the link. 

Jeff,

I asked, "What is your plan and strategy?"  You ignored my question.

Others, in response to your article, asked you to name the organizations.  As did I.  You've ignored us. 

I asked you to explain how "outside organizations" can be very helpful in getting RINOs out of office entirely and asked for concrete historical examples.  You ignored that question, too.

It's kind of hard to have a dialogue with someone who doesn't want to answer pertinent questions. 

Thank you,

Cold Warrior

Jeff,

You said the following.  See my comments in [[double brackets]]:

Hey CW,

Good comments on my blog, but you're a tad limited in your thinking.  Yes, technically, the GOP apparatus must replace people like Boehner.  However, outside organizations can also be very helpful in getting people like Boehner, McCain (too late for that guy...), Collins and their like out of office entirely.

[[Please name the organizations and give me proven, concrete historical examples.]]

But I don't care, at the end of the day, how they're removed so long as they are removed and don't come back. 

[[So, what is your plan and strategy?]]

I, for one, will not be satisfied with their mere removal, either.  Rules must be changed in the party providing for the expulsion of elected members who vote outside publicly available and detailed party dictates.  We no longer can afford to wait for an entire election cycle for accountability.  [["Expulsion" from the Party?  ANYONE can run as a Republican.  The only people who can be "expunged" from the Party, per the rules, are precinct committeemen.  Have you bothered to read and study the national, state, county and legislative district committee rules/bylaws?.  Who are you to demand "expulsion" from the Party of anyone, when you are not even a member of it?"  Being a member of a Republican club does not make you a voting member of the Party.  ONLY precinct committeemen are "card carrying Party members."]]

Of course, if the party isn't conservative in either their agenda, principles or platform, then that's instructive as well.  This nation need accountability, and soon.  If George Soros is a player in the Democrat Party, I have no doubts whatever that he's also reached Republicans.  We need to remove the influence people such as Soros -- or Rove's bosses -- can wield with any member of congress on the GOP side.  Campaign finance?  Gimme a break.  It has to come down to the individual's responsibility for a vote.  Our party has been subverted.

FYI, I'm active in the Fountain Hills Republican Club...  Who are you anyway?  Why is your name hidden?  [[I choose to remain anonymous for professional reasons.]]

Thank you.

Cold Warrior

Thanks Jeff for the note, and thank you for taking the time to keep writing these pointed words.

Thank you for the friend request,I am hoping to be a part of the healing of this nation and find myself in good company with your support and friendship.

Thanks for your information about what might be more appropriate on your blog or not. I will try to keep too much God off of it and focus on taking back America!

I do tend to overstate just to push my own views.. Thanks.

Jeff Dover, please let me know what part of that Bible you believe I rewrote on your blog?

Thanks Dennis

Jeff,

When I say it isn't going to change, I am only referring to my small neck of the woods as I do not pretend to know how others are doing.  I've tried to influence my Leg. Dist. and continue to with few results.  People are very complacent and like to do what is comfortable.  I asked my Leg. Dist Chair who is a PCO if she had every walked her precinct to even introduce herself.  She said, "I am not comfortable doing that."  But, she does know how to organize a meeting.  In my humble opinion, organizing a meeting is great, but the real work exists as feet on the ground and "engaging" both our side and the anyone else.

Yes, if a robot has to answer to someone somewhere, then you are correct.  I traded money for that privilege; however, I was still given a lot more latitude than a robot is given.  Even today, in the volunteer work I do, I have earned a reputation of being "outside the box" but competent to be there and therefore have the support of the paid people who oversee the program I volunteer with.

We all answer to someone somewhere, and with limitations that isn't bad at all as long as it doesn't morph by bits and pieces of total control.

We need to do a whole lot better in our support of candidates who actually we could depend on to vote the right way most of the time.  The power has to be taken away from the elected and assumed by the people.

Jeff,

I do understand what you are saying about Heritage and ACU. It all leads back to money, doesn't it.  I would like to give DeMint a chance at making a difference.  He is pushing his education reform and if that happens, the Education department could be drastically cut if not abolished.  I am afraid we have to take the bad with the little bit of good because it is all about the money.We really do outnumber them but, they have the power right now but, they can't keep it without our vote.  It will dawn on them at some point, don't you think?