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    UH OH: ALMOST 700 DELEGATES AGAINST TRUMP, A CONVENTION COUP COULD BE WITHIN REACH!!
    Posted by The Right Scoop on Jul 6, 2016 at 5:35 PM in Politics | 395 Comments
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    According to the Wall Street Journal, a coup against Trump at the convention could be within reach for anti-Trump forces.

    They say it’s a long shot overall, but that the initial hurdle of having enough votes to bring the issue to the floor for a vote by all delegates is very possible:

    WSJ – The anti-Trump camp needs the backing of 28, or one-quarter, of the 112 Convention Rules Committee members, in order to place the issue before the full convention. A Wall Street Journal survey suggests it could be close. In interviews, 20 members said they are willing to consider allowing delegates to be unbound, while 59 support Mr. Trump. The other 33 panelists couldn’t be reached or did not respond to repeated messages. Others counting votes have their own tallies. Internal surveys of the Rules Committee conducted by RNC member Randy Evans of Georgia, who is whipping votes trying to help Mr. Trump fend off the insurrection, found at least 18 committee members open to voting to unbind. The Trump campaign’s count shows about 15 leaning toward the so-called conscience clause, according to people familiar with the campaign. Kendal Unruh, a Colorado schoolteacher on the committee leading part of the anti-Trump movement, said she has private commitments from more than 30 committee members, but that many aren’t willing to admit so publicly. All involved in counting votes say those numbers fluctuate on a day-to-day basis. If the provision gets the necessary committee votes when the panel meets beginning next Wednesday, it would place the issue before the full convention, where it would need 1,237 votes—half the delegates—to pass. Though a majority of the convention delegates are bound to support Mr. Trump, Mr. Evans’s count shows just about 890 delegates are personally loyal to the New Yorker. Another 680 oppose Mr. Trump. That leaves 900 delegates who are presumed to be “in play,” he said. The stop-Trump forces would have to take nearly two-thirds of them to block his nomination.
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    Important: the *Trump* whip count has 680 opposed & 900+ in play!! Still possible to #dumptrump if there is the will https://twitter.com/reidepstein/status/750799050509811712
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    Wow. Looks like this could actually be in reach. I wouldn’t get your hopes up too high yet, but truthfully you never know this year what could happen.

    Get out the popcorn folks, this RNC convention might just be a must see convention!

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    UH OH: TRUMP’S UNITY MEETING WITH SENATE REPUBLICANS DID NOT GO WELL AT ALL

    Apparently Trump doesn’t understand the definition of ‘unity’, as his unity meeting with Senate Republicans ended up being pretty contentious, with Trump and Sen. Flake getting into it over his lack of support for Trump:

    WAPO – Donald Trump’s private meeting Thursday with Senate Republicans – designed to foster greater party unity ahead of the national convention in Cleveland — grew combative as the presumptive presidential nominee admonished three senators who have been critical of his candidacy and predicted they would lose their reelection bids, according to two Republican officials with direct knowledge of the exchanges. Trump’s most tense exchange was with Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), who has been highly critical of the business mogul’s candidacy, especially his rhetoric and policies on immigration that the senator has argued alienate many Latino and other voters in Arizona. Trump said at the meeting that he has yet to attack Flake hard, but threatened to begin doing so. Flake stood up to Trump by urging him to stop attacking Mexicans. Trump predicted that Flake would lose his reelection, at which point Flake informed Trump that he was not on the ballot this year, said the sources, who spoke only on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to disclose details of the private meeting. Flake’s spokesman did not immediately reply to a request for comment. Trump also called out Sen. Mark Kirk (R-Ill.), who withdrew his endorsement of Trump last month citing the business mogul’s racially-based attacks on a federal judge, and said he did not approve of the senator’s action, said the officials.
    Characterizing Kirk as a loser, Trump vowed that he would carry Illinois in the general election even though the state traditionally has been solidly Democratic in presidential contests. Kirk did not attend the meeting with Trump. Trump also singled out Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.), who has refused to support Trump and has emerged as perhaps the most vocal advocate for a third-party candidate. Sasse declined to speak with reporters as he left the meeting. “Senator Sasse went to today’s meeting ready to listen. Senator Sasse introduced himself to Mr. Trump and the two had a gracious exchange,” said James Wegmann, the senator’s spokesman. “Mr. Sasse continues to believe that our country is in a bad place and, with these two candidates, this election remains a dumpster fire. Nothing has changed.” KEEP READING THERE’S A LOT MORE…

    Wapo has since added more to the exchange between Trump and Flake, and it sounds like Flake went after Trump:

    UH OH: Trump’s UNITY meeting with Senate Republicans did NOT go well at all

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    Can Trump survive the convention? Yes… No… Maybe… Heck, I don’t know how he got this far. He needs help. Gingrich?

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    BOOM! Anti-Trump leader says enough votes to ‘FREE THE DELEGATES’!!

    According to the Daily Wire, an anti-Trump leader is saying that they have gathered enough votes to “free the delegates” and allow them to vote their conscience instead of being bound to rules.

    Here’s what they say:

    Over the weekend, The Daily Wire had the opportunity to speak with Kendal Unruh, a member of the Colorado Republican delegation to the Republican National Convention. Unruh is also a member of the Rules Committee at the RNC, and a leading advocate for a vote that would unbind the delegates from the candidates to which their state primaries are pledged. Unruh explained that “28 committee members are required to pass a minority report, which then goes to the convention floor for all delegates to vote on. It then requires a simple majority to pass.” She added that she does “have the 28 votes required for the minority report,” continuing, “Not everyone who is with us is willing to be public yet, due in part to the threats being made by Trump’s campaign and the RNC itself.”
    She makes her case for the delegates voting their conscience according to our system of elections:

    It is the duty of the delegates to represent the best interests of their states and to select a Republican candidate who actually represents our party and who can beat Hillary in November. That’s not Donald Trump. We don’t live in a straight democracy, where majority rule has the absolute say. We have a measured, representative form of government that allows time for discussion, fact-finding, and wisdom before our elected representatives make the final decision. Many new facts have come out since the early primaries that should disqualify Trump, and the delegates have historically always been the final stop-gate through which our party’s nominee must pass. Trump didn’t even get the vote of a majority of Republicans, and over 50% agree that he should not be our nominee. In fact, he would be the first Republican nominee to receive the nomination with more votes cast against him in the primaries than for him.
    She has a point. This is a representative Democracy for a reason – if the founders had intended a direct Democracy, they would have said so. In the Federalist Papers they lay out the reasons they chose the system we have, and they count on how they understand human nature – it’s not just a random system.

    But ultimately, it’s still a political game – the delegates have to actually believe that Trump is a bad choice. It would help if more polls show him crashing to Earth between now and then, and if he’s unable to keep his foolish mouth shut. AND it would help if more people came to their senses and saw Trump for what he really is.

    It’s gonna be a very exciting few weeks.

    Read more: http://therightscoop.com/boom-anti-trump-leader-says-enough-votes-to-free-the-delegates/#ixzz4E3oMWpnP

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    EXCLUSIVE: ‘Dump Trump’ RNC Delegate Leader: We ‘Have The 28 Votes’ To Unbind Delegates

    over the weekend, The Daily Wire had the opportunity to speak with Kendal Unruh, a member of the Colorado Republican delegation to the Republican National Convention. Unruh is also a member of the Rules Committee at the RNC, and a leading advocate for a vote that would unbind the delegates from the candidates to which their state primaries are pledged.

    Unruh explained that “28 committee members are required to pass a minority report, which then goes to the convention floor for all delegates to vote on. It then requires a simple majority to pass.” She added that she does “have the 28 votes required for the minority report,” continuing, “Not everyone who is with us is willing to be public yet, due in part to the threats being made by Trump’s campaign and the RNC itself.”

    Unruh added that the role of a responsible delegate required unbinding the delegates:

    It is the duty of the delegates to represent the best interests of their states and to select a Republican candidate who actually represents our party and who can beat Hillary in November. That’s not Donald Trump. We don’t live in a straight democracy, where majority rule has the absolute say. We have a measured, representative form of government that allows time for discussion, fact-finding, and wisdom before our elected representatives make the final decision. Many new facts have come out since the early primaries that should disqualify Trump, and the delegates have historically always been the final stop-gate through which our party’s nominee must pass. Trump didn’t even get the vote of a majority of Republicans, and over 50% agree that he should not be our nominee. In fact, he would be the first Republican nominee to receive the nomination with more votes cast against him in the primaries than for him.

    Unruh urged Republicans who want to dump Trump at the convention to “call and email the rules committee members from their state”; she pledged to coordinate efforts through Delegates Unbound, an organizating group available at delegatesunbound.com and on Facebook by clicking here.

    http://www.dailywire.com/news/7337/exclusive-dump-trump-rnc-delegate-leader-we-have-daily-wire

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