Within the conservative movement, there is a huge rift. That rift is between the Paulbots as some of them are called and other conservatives. While there are some Ron Paul supporters who are decent people, who you can talk politics with and debate the issues. Unfortunately those people are a minority among Ron Paul supporters.
What is worse is not only are these Ron Paul supporters obnoxious, disagreeable and rude. Some of them are dangerous.
From the Examiner:
Jere Brower, his wife Clara, and his 4-year-old daughter Ana, have a very good reason to believe Texas Congressman Ron Paul when he said people view his supporters as "dangerous."
The 38-year-old Atlanta man and his family have been targeted by militant Ron Paul supporters, one of whom threatened to "kneecap" him, then rape his wife and young daughter. Mr. Brower said he has also received death threats from supporters of Ron Paul.
The trouble started when Brower and some of his Facebook friends decided to have a laugh over Ron Paul's ties to racist and anti-semitic groups.
He wrote a post on Facebook intended to be a joke, but some Paul supporters took it seriously - too seriously.
"If you live in South Carolina and want to have some fun with these Paulbots here is what we do," he wrote.
"Go online and buy or make your very own KKK robe, complete with hood (hood is important). Then get some Ron Paul signs or make your own. Follow Paul around South Carolina and be sure to get photographed by the media. Again, hoods are important. All can be Klansmen for Paul. Black, white, Jewish, Asian - those Paulbots will s**t a brick."
What started as a practical joke ended with rabid Ron Paul supporters threatening Brower. They wanted to go to his employer and try to get him fired. Then it got worse.
They flooded his phone with messages which were threatening. The worst of it came when they threatened to shoot him and rape his wife and young daughter.
Fortunately Brower went to the police and they are handling this.
While the threats of violence are the most extreme instances of what the Paulbots have done, their behavior is consistently obnoxious.
Perhaps the most disturbing part of all of this is the lack of concern from the Paul campaign. They don’t seem to care that so many of their followers are so anti-liberty. They do not care that some of their followers are little more than thugs.
Mark Levin has had some choice words for Ron Paul followers. Erick Erickson over at Red State has banned them from his site. We have tossed many of them off of Tea Party Nation for being obnoxious.
Ron Paul needs to have a long chat with his followers. He needs to make them understand that liberty means people have the right to make their own decisions. That means we get to decide we do not like Ron Paul if we want.
That is liberty.
Responsibility means Ron Paul needs to denounce the violence inspired by his followers and tell them people do have the right to disagree with him.
Ron Paul needs to do this. I doubt he will.
Good points. Ron Paul is seen as some sort of "everyman" type. His "folksy charm" won't get him far with many of the world's leaders.
Ron Paul has tunnel vision.
The tunnel is the same one Jews went down in German history in the 1930s. And which Dietrich Bonhoeffer warned against. We Ron Paulers see the dangers in centralization of powers in the White House -- contrary to the Founding Fathers' wisdom in dividing the powers -- we want to decentralize most of the powers -- except our national defense -- like on the Mexican border.
Give it up Dan. We are tired of hearing the same nonsense, hundreds of times. Take it elsewhere.
Judson, Are going nuts on us? I would need a lot more evidence before I would have printed this. I am starting to loose faith in your judgement.
It is linked to the source. I consider it credible, especially given then behavior of Paulbots.
I realize that you are the leader of this group. I have been a tea party member since its inception. How did you get to be that leader? By running around in front of the pack and saying, 'Follow me.' You don't sound a bit like the speeches I heard in front of the Lincoln Memorial in Washington. I didn't vote to put you at the lead of this group. How did you get there?
I started this group.
Simple as that....Ray. you are free to go to another group, or even start your own.
Now that's liberty and freedom of speech, which you seem to want to quell here.
Judson is not the head of the Tea Party. This is, however, his site, and he can ban whoever he wants. I hope and assume that he thinks about free speech before doing so. I think the site would be stronger with a wider range of opinions, but that's completely his call, and having attempted to debate with Paulbots, I'm happy not to see many of them here.
Nor is anyone else. I don't know who was banned or what they said. What I will say is that it must have been pretty bad. My experience with them has been nerve wracking. I want to debate AND learn something when I get on a blog. He/she replied to me so many times blasting me (not discussing anything) but blasting me with insidious remarks. It was so bad that I had to send him to spam.
What I have experienced with Paul bots? They become vicious and down right mean attacking "the person" and not debating the issue.
I was on a site yesterday and mentioned I was from Texas; and he lit into me about being a black hater and was I flying my Confederate Flag. At first, I replied thinking I was talking to a rational person (hopefully); and soon discovered that his intent seemed to be vicious -- deliberately vicious with no debate or intellectual discussion about Ron Paul and what he stands for.
I, Personally? I personally believe that the response team that worked with Ron Paul running (under the guidance of Soros) has caused Ron Paul great damage instead of helping him. I would NEVER have seen the day a man like Ron Paul having anything to do with George Soros.