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The Supreme Court on Obamacare: which decision is best for Conservatives?

We are all aware that the vast majority of Americans oppose Obamacare...the reasons have been discussed endlessly here and elsewhere.

As well, the many and various facets of unconstitutionality have been discussed ad-infinitum! We know much about that stuff!

Nope,  no longer worth discussing. Been there, done that!

Of immediate interest is the Supreme Court decision on the matter this week.

There are many articles about Why Obamacare Will Survive Court PoliticsNegative Supreme Court Decision Will Make Obamacare Appear a Mistake and  so on.

Is this what I want to talk about?

Nope!

What's the probability that the SCOTUS will overturn ObamaCare? Again, there are hundreds thousands of articles on this subject as well.

No, I would propose that it would best serve us if the Court punts, based on the Anti-Injunction Act or the Commerce Clause, or whatever reason!


I would submit the following, should it be found unconstitutional:

  1. If ObamaCare is eliminated, a major Republican issue is lost  for the 2012 election. Obama wins this, round, because it's off the table.
  2. Without ObamaCare, Pelosi et al., win! Pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it" is lost for all time.
  3. Conservatives would lose nearly all influence in the matter. The creator of RomneyObamacare as well gets a pass.
  4. Such things as Newt's First day Repeal (or All States get Waiver) are lost. No longer even a talking point!

And, perhaps most importantly, Uncertainty would be lost! Employers who now delay hiring because of cost flux might well decide....hire, or permanently shrink their firms. (The latter choice is, of course, the least attractive.)

So, my friends, which is better for the country? While resolution of this atrocity now might make us feel better for the moment, keeping this issue alive might well serve the Nation best.

Let the people decide  the issue of ObamaCare, in November.


What say you?

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You have given us some "food for thought," Vern.  Letting the "people" decide in November would be the best choice IMO.

 

However, we cannot be certain that their choice would prevail.   Obama was recently heard on a "hot mik" saying to the Russian President, "I will Have More ’Flexibility‘ ’After My Election.’"  

 

What does Obama know that we don't?

 

It is obvious that the Democrats and Republicans are both working together to move us from a Constitutional Republic into socialism/communism.   They are a cabal.  We are in the midst of a coup.
  

In politics, rarely do conservatives win by losing. 

The best outcome would be a return, by the Supreme Court, to the rule of law.  That the individual mandate is unconstitutional is clear.  That Congress passed Obamacare without a severability clause is clear.  The best thing that could happen would be for the court to find the individual mandate unconstitutional as being beyond the Article I, Section 8 enumerated powers of Congress and thereby rule the entire "law" as a nullity. 

If the law is upheld, then it means we now no longer have a Constitution with limited powers, but rather a truly "living" Constitution that means whatever a majority in the House, Senate, and the Supreme Court say it means, along with the president. 

Then the only way to undo all of this is for "We the People" to rise up and unelect all of the incumbents.  How many here think that's going to happen? 

Of the almost 90,000 Patriot ACTION Network members, how many have ever attended their local Republican Party committee meeting to find out how to become a voting member of the Party?  If we can't even unite and organize to take over a political party that is just there for the taking, and has been since Obama got elected, what makes you think "We the People" are ever going to get our act together and take back our government?

If we all just cross our fingers and hope that "somebody" is going to rescue us, we're going to lose our country.  There's no cavalry coming.  Each one of us has to get involved in party politics like never before and help Get Out The Vote in the remaining primaries for the best Republican conservative candidates and then in the general election for the Republican candidates.  How many here will get involved?  Actually make phone calls?  Actually attend their local Party committee meeting?  Actually go door to door?  Actually become precinct committeemen? 

Thank you.

Cold Warrior

theprecinctproject.wordpress.com

Cold Warrior,

As an attorney, I thought you might appreciate this!

Model Nullification Resolutions for State Legislatures.

by Publius Huldah

http://publiushuldah.wordpress.com/2012/03/13/model-nullification-r...

This is well done.  Obozocare is unconsitutional in every way.  Lets see if the progressive frauds vote for it.

I wish we could remove all 4 frauds. 

Thank you, you are so right but people don't react until they see blood.

No pain no gain

Cold Warrior, I think you are spot on. Should Obama win with no rejection of Obamacare, the sky's the limit for him as there is not and has not been any serious attempt by Republicans in the House to defund this monstrosity. Should Romney win with no rejection of Obamacare, he isn't likely to try to undo the big sister of what he wrought in Massachesetts. Either way, the American people lose.

You took the words right out of my mouth.  This law will destroy our nation if allowed to stand.  A Republican win in Nov. is no slam dunk and if Romney becomes president, the repeal of Obamacare is highly unlikely.  It would be like the father of Frankenstein killing his baby.  And even if Santorum won and wanted to end it, we will not have 60 senators opposed to the law, which means it can be filibustered.  No, lets take one in the hand and hope the court throws the whole mess out.  Again, we can have a shot at restoring America or Obamacare, but not both.   

I will take any victory over this tyrannt If SCOTUS gives us one for freedom, fine. Then we attack the teleprompter man on gasoline prices, the economy and the balloooning debt.  I would really prefer the SCOTUS do what is right and most of us think Obama care is unconstitutional, period. Too many things can go wrong between now and November. We do not know what they have up their sleeves for an October surprise.

I think the voting machines are probably already rigged with most of the votes going to Obama. 

I disagree. A court rejection of Obamacare will make it less likely the Democrats will bring up the issue again in the future. Don't forget, winning the White House, Senate and House are just as important. From this stage we can eliminate this healthcare disaster immediately. No telling what legal mumbo jumbo the Democrats will come up with to save it. Based on past decisions the court has rejected expansion of the commerce clause. If they didn't where would it all end? There would be an endless stream of federal mandates by the Democrats to force us to do something we as free people don't want to do.

So let me get this straight...

You are arguing that the SCOTUS punting the most important decision in US history would be a good thing because it negates electoral talking points. Are you serious?

All the talking points that you mention still remain, the consequences of such are just eliminated...

FOOL!

I agree.

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