The old guard has got to go, or November, 2012 will be a disaster.
The old guard gave us wonders like John McCain and Bob Dole, almost without asking for a show of hands to see if anyone else was interested in the job. GW Bush was no great prize either.
Between watching McCain flail his arms, Bob Dole fall off the stage and talk about himself in the third person, and cringing every time Bush tried to make use of the English language, I wondered if maybe the GOP was actually run by the Democrats.
What will replace the old guard? We will! Conservancy in its purest forms will replace this watered-down, moderate, mish-mash that allows middle-of-the-road people like Mitt Romney can be nominated.
How can we do this?
Actually, I think we ARE doing this with greater success than we think we are. Maybe the better question should be...
How long will this take?
American politics moves in extremely slow motion in phases that require four years to complete. Make no mistake, the movement has begun. If not in this election, then certainly by 2016 the Tea Party will either have a true conservative in the White House, or we will be an emerging third party and the GOP will be rendered impotent like several other parties in the nation's history.
The old guard should read that last statement very carefully. This is not something new. They can and will be replaced by leaders like Newt Gingrich or Rick Santorum that are willing to do the will of the people before their own.
We are not going away! We are only gaining momentum. Just on this site, for example, in the last two months I have watched our numbers grow. The level of activity on these blogs has sometimes had our service provider's file server computers smoking. We're growing! And, with nearly every new member here, the GOP likely loses one.
Sooner or later, even the stodgy, old goats that currently make the decisions behind the scenes in the GOP must take notice. Already we have had significant and undeniable impact in the Congress with the budget debates. And, even if we do not succeed in electing a Tea Party candidate, then there is the hope for a Tea Party-led Congress that must stand against Barack Obama or Mitt Romney. If that happens, then sobeit!
It appears that the media and the GOP are about to push Mitt romney to the forefront. Romney who brought us such brilliant bits of statesmanship like not caring about the poor man, refusing for reveal is finances, being glad to be able to fire people, and stashing his cash, and who cannot take Obama to task on ObamaCare, will be made to look like a fool by the Teleprompter-in-Chief.
Imagine that, being bested by a man whose best effort is to read what others tell him to read...
Mitt Romney...simply the latest in the long line of GOP failures!
Tags: Gingrich, Romney, Santorum, conservative, moderate
Permalink Reply by Iago Jones on If the silent majority of the republican party wants a very different candidate why aren't those different candidates winning primaries and getting donations?
Sincerely why not? Is it at all possible that vocal base is just that, that base, and isn't a majority of the whole?
Maybe it's time we ditch the RHINO badge of shame and figure out if the white shoe business republicans, the social conservative republicans, the fiscal hawk republicans, and the libertarian republicans have enough in common to be one party or not. If we do let's stop making our candidates twist into pretzels to please every faction and accept talented men and women who have some moderate views, can appeal to a broad audience, and still govern in a reasonably conservative fashion.
Permalink Reply by Jeff Waller on The GOP was traditionally conservative, but not anymore. The Tea Party is almost totally made up of conservatives, and hopefully still fairly pure. Moderates and libertarians have no place here. I don't think that they should be made to feel welcome. Certainly, the Democrat Party would not after all welcome a senator that was vocal against Roe v. Wade. Why should the GOP and TP welcome those who dilute our message?
It's rather like what has happened to the New Testament church. It was started by Christ and on that day it was pure Christianity. But as time went on, man began to get his fingerprints all over it, adding this, taking away that. Now it's an amalgam of Evangelicals, Baptists, Catholics, Episcopals, etc. All of them can't be right, can they?
That's what's happened to the GOP. It's fractured and weakened by all of these subgroups. The RINO badge is something that has always been applied to moderates, but can fit anyone who is not a true conservative.
Conservatism requires no contortions, Jones. It's only when a person tries to fit in where he doesn't belong that he has learn to do the Limbo! :)
Permalink Reply by Iago Jones on Purity comes at a cost, ask the Green Party or NY's conservative party... that cost is losing elections or not even being competitive. That cost is too high for me so I'm willing to compromise on a number of points to varying degrees.
However I frankly don't think anyone who our Party fielded this year can win the general. Part of the reason is the poor caliber of candidates but another is the many diverse groups who call themselves Conservatives, we Tea Partiers included, make so many absolute demands that the people willing to step up and run have to contort themselves into absurd and conflicting positions that make them nearly unelectable.
I don't know what the solution is but I know this year's crowd of Candidates is a textbook case of what's wrong with the party.
Permalink Reply by Jeff Waller on It's one thing for voters to associate with a party and have varying levels of loyalty (that's the wrong word) to a party line, and yet another for politicians to stray. Reagan knew this. He governed from the right, but campaigned from the middle. I suppose this substantiates what you're saying somewhat.
But the party line can never change! The platform must remain consistent. Truth is always true!
Permalink Reply by Iago Jones on The party is merely the sum of its members. There are at least four significant factions in our Party with very different, but somewhat overlapping, governing philosophies. Which faction is right on taxes or personal freedom or social policy?
The Grand Old Party has changed changed before, will change again, and needs to change now. We're going to lose this November, not only the Presidential race but down ticket races too, and frankly we deserve to.
We need to rebuild. We need to forgive each other for the failings we perceive in them and they us. We need to learn not to be extravagant in our demands but humble in our service to our fellows.
There are good people out there willing to run but not if they have to tie themselves into knots being all things to all factions.
Anyway this is just my opinion.
Permalink Reply by Jeff Waller on I won't tolerate these defeatist comments from you.
Get therapy, get a backbone, or get out of here!
Permalink Reply by Iago Jones on My bad. I thought you wanted to have a conversation grounded in reality.
I can switch to your frequency.
Ahem.
Everything is fine and though purity we will find victory! Low turnout in our primaries is just Conservatives keeping out powder dry for the General!
Permalink Reply by Jeff Waller on We have to change...
We're going to lose...
We need to rebuild...
We need to forgive...
Oh, my God!
Get this man some Zoloft!
I agree with you Jeff. If your going to roll over all the time; "you" have no base. If individuals in a group do not have personal bases, their collective won't either. This man is a reach-across-the-aisle kinda guy. No room for it here.
Permalink Reply by Dorothy Delisle on If we don't get that DICTATOR out of office now,we may not get another chance. I Pray we don't have Romney as +our candidate" but it would be foolish for us to sit out this election.look what happened in 2008. The conservatives sat out and we ended up with a president who wants to bring down America. We must make a stand. Perhaps Newt isn't getting any money from the grassroots. Put your money in his campaign ,or watch MY AMERICA go down. Not me ,I will fight to get the muslim out of the White House
Permalink Reply by J R Wiley on I'm with you on this Jeff. If I.J. thinks we can't win if we adhere to our conservative values then he has already surrendered. We have to remember who it is we're dealing with. We have a president who hates the country he leads, backed up by a democrat party that has been working towards turning America into a socialist nanny state since Wilson was president. They are close to achieving their goal and will stoop to anything to finish the job. We cannot even consider compromising with them, because as they have shown, "compromise" means doing it their way. The "Old Guard" republicans like Dole and McCain have been tricked, coerced, bribed, and blackmailed into doing just that. That fact, along with the desire to maintain what power they have, has made them completely corrupted and not worthy to speak for us. As the old saying goes "When you lay down with dogs, you get up with fleas". Mitt Romney being endorsed by these guys should made all of us question 'WHY". I don't know about you, but I get the feeling that these guys are manipulating the nominatng process to get their guy in. I have to ask I.J....JUST WHAT IN THE HELL MAKES OBAMA SO UNBEATABLE?
Permalink Reply by Jeff Waller on JR,
I think we are about to see a greatly-weakened president on the other side of his row with the church and his contraception mandate.
Keep strong! Full right rudder and pull back on the wheel...onward and upward
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