The left likes to call it the “birther” issue. The term birther is used as a derisive term by the left, much as truther is. Of course the difference is truthers beliefs are based on a paranoid ideology, where as the birther issue is based on facts.
I prefer to call it the eligibility issue, not the birther issue. Whether you agree or not, the people who are pushing the eligibility issue are on our side. It is certainly counter-productive to deride them like liberals do.
Recently a whole stream of Republicans have come out, at the prompting of the drive by media, to reassure us that Obama is a citizen and oh, yes, he is a Christian too.
Last Sunday, at the prodding of David Gregory on Meet the Press, or as Rush likes to call it, Meet the depressed, Boehner said, the State of Hawaii had said he was born there, that was good enough for him.
Karl Rove, not a friend of the Tea Party, pushed the RINO line that Obama is a citizen and Sarah Palin, at a meeting in Long Island, a few days ago, also denounced the eligibility issue. Palin ended her remarks on the subject by saying, “let’s stick with what really matters.”
This issue does matter.
There are three variations on the eligibility issue. Two are based on undisputed facts. The third is in dispute.
The most commonly reported of the eligibility challenges is the claim that Obama was actually born in Kenya, not Hawaii. I believe, based on the available evidence, that it is more likely than not, Obama was actually born in Hawaii. Obama has spent a lot of time and (other people’s) money, keeping his original birth certificate out of sight.
Jack Cashill is one of my favorite writers and he has a theory which I think makes sense, that Obama was in fact born in Hawaii, but there is something else on his birth certificate that would destroy the myth of Barack Obama. (See his website, Cashill.com). In the law, there is a presumption that if a party has exclusive access to a piece of evidence and will not release it, the evidence must be adverse to their position.
The second eligibility issue is the claim that because Barack Obama’s father was a Kenyan, a British subject at the time of Obama’s birth, he is not a natural born citizen.
The third is the argument that because Barack Obama was adopted as a child by an Indonesian and moved to Indonesia, he is not an American citizen. Under the law at that time, if an American child was adopted by a citizen of another country and moved to that country, he lost his citizenship. He could regain his citizenship by applying at an American Embassy when he was 18, but would then be treated as a naturalized citizen and thus ineligible to be President.
What is stunning about all of this is the mainstream Republican reaction to the eligibility issues.
The RINOs turn their noses up at the people who want the answers, which, incidentally is 60% of Republican voters. They turn their noses up at the Tea Party movement. Yet, they do not take a moment to consider why this is important.
If Barack Obama is proved to be ineligible to be President, everything he has done is wiped out. Obamacare is gone. The START treaty is gone. The liberal lunatics Obama has appointed to the Federal Judiciary, including the two he has put on the Supreme Court are gone.
Much of the damage Obama has done to this country can be undone. Unfortunately, the Country Club Republicans remain clueless. In their minds, the Democrats are simply the lower class versions of themselves. They do not understand that if the party of treason has its way, America will be forever changed and ultimately destroyed.
The Courts have so far brushed aside all of the eligibility claims. None have been addressed on the merits under the claim that Americans lack standing to challenge the issue. Recently, the Supreme Court has given some indication it may consider one of the issues. We can only hope.
What are the chances of success? Who knows?
Why do football teams run the flea flicker play? It does not work all of the time, but when it does, the results are spectacular. Why should conservatives all hope this works out? Because this wipes out almost everything the Obama regime has done. We get a do over.
You would think, even the RINOs who want to denigrate the eligibility issue could figure this one out.
Tea Party Unbound
When the public is angry and organized against the ruling classes and the media ignores the phenomenon, the rebellion does not die. More
By Clarice Feldman
For several years now it seems to me that voters throughout the country in a perfectly peaceable way have demonstrated their revulsion at the ruling class's political , academic and media elites, and the media's disparagement or utter refusal to cover this civil revolution has not succeeded in killing it. Instead, as more people join in and see how the media distorts or refuses to report what they see with their own eyes, the sooner all of the major media will be joining Newsweek and CNN and the NYT and the Washington Post in their death throes. (This week it was so bad the far left Ford Foundation was granting media like the Washington Post and Los Angeles Times substantial funds to keep these half dead publications afloat.)
WALL STREET INSIDER: FED To Give Obama September/October Surprise
by Ulsterman on August 3, 2012
A brief message from a longtime Wall Street Insider warns the Federal Reserve is preparing a September/October stimulus surprise to directly benefit Barack Obama’s campaign to win re-election. “WATCH FOR IT”
Obama Drones Prepared For Mainstreet America (WHITE HOUSE INSIDER RELATED)
More information coming in regarding deployment of scores of drones throughout the United States to be fully ready by this fall.
Remember the dire warnings of Barack Obama’s obsession with drone technology given to us by WH Insider:
Election Watchdog: 160 Counties Have More Registered Voters Than are Actually Eligible to Vote
By Madeleine Morganstern
A nonpartisan election integrity group has sent legal notices to 160 counties across the U.S. that it says have more voters on its registration rolls than actual live, eligible voters — and thus represent potential hotbeds for election fraud, the organization told TheBlaze exclusively.
The Houston-based True the Vote said the counties may be in violation of Section 8 of the National Voter Registration Act, which mandates that election officials maintain clean voter rolls by removing people who have died, moved away or are no longer eligible to vote. True the Vote is demanding each of the counties show proof of compliance or they’ll bring civil suit.
The counties in question are spread across 19 states that together account for 203 electoral college votes, including six current battleground states. Among the counties are LaSalle, Ill., which True the Vote identified as having 520 percent voter registration; Jefferson, Miss. with more than 230 percent; and Hanson, S.D. with 165 percent.
CHARLIE DANIELS UNLOADS 'DAG-BLAMED TRUTH' ON OBAMA
Feisty music legend worries after November, 'America will never be America again'
“There’s a move afoot to change life in America into a totally European – I’ve heard that so much I’m getting sick of it: ‘European’ – socialist thing,” says country-music legend Charlie Daniels, “but it’s the dag-blamed truth [sic], and it don’t work, it never has worked, and if America goes that way, America will never be America again.”
Daniels told WND in an exclusive interview that he expects 2012, with the nation’s very identity on the line, will be “the biggest election we have ever had.”
“In my 75 years on Earth, it’s never been as clear-cut as it is now,” Daniels said. “We’re either going to go into socialism, where part of the people work and the rest of them don’t, and the ones that do will be taxed to death, or – I got the point where I don’t trust politicians anymore, but hopefully – the other side represents, ‘Let’s put America back to work; let’s re-instill the work ethic back in people.’”
Since the 1950s Daniels has been a country singer and famed fiddler, perhaps best known for his hit song “The Devil Went Down to Georgia.” He was inducted into the Grand Ole Opry in 2008.
But he also writes frequently on culture and politics, no stranger to bold statements in defense of God and country, and maintains a “soapbox” blog on his website, CharlieDaniels.com.
For Daniels, the word “socialism” – synonymous in his mind with the big-spending, tax-the-rich, government-welfare, spread-the-wealth policies of President Obama and his fellow “progressives” – is a system not only destined for failure, but also inherently tyrannical.
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Congress may be heading out for recess today but that isn't stopping the House Republicans from moving forward with a civil contempt of Congress lawsuit against Attorney General Eric Holder.
"We'll be filing a civil case during the break," Issa told NBC, "We will expect a day in court before a federal judge, which we have a 100 percent chance that the judge will hold that these documents should be delivered."
The lawsuit will be reviewed by a judge who will assess whether Holder has an obligation to comply with a 22-part Congressional subpoena that was issue in October 2011. The judge will also review whether President Obama's assertion of executive privilige surrounding Fast and Furious documents was warranted.
"The idea that you would withhold based on some executive privilege the documents related to a cover up of a crime is absurd, but that's the claim that the attorney general is hiding behind," Issa said.
"We're seeking a remedy and the remedy is an order to compel," Issa said. "Nixon didn't respond to Congress, he responded to federal judges, ultimately the Supreme Court, ordering that he had no such privilege to cover up the tapes. And these are no different than the Nixon tapes, we're asking for documents related to a cover up of lying to Congress."
Holder was voted in civil and criminal contempt of Congress by Republicans and Democrats in June. The House Oversight Committee has requested access to 80,000 Fast and Furious documents (240,000 documents exist) and the Department of Justice has turned over 7,000. The announcement of the lawsuit filing time frame comes just days after a joint Congressional report was issued this week detailing the role ATF supervisors played in the program and showed Holder's office was actually considering bringing Holder to Arizona to announce Fast and Furious indictments.
Sidenote: NBC is now covering Fast and Furious, finally.
Most recent carnages have a common theme; the use of psychiatric drugs by the killer. With one in five adults taking psychiatric drugs and the push of these medications on children, shouldn't there be a cause for concern that we are paving the way for potential future incidents? These prescription drugs are altering the brain chemistry, which causes the person to feel distanced from reality. Ironically the antidepressants often cause side effects of depression, suicidal thoughts, and homicidal behavior, which as we have seen, can result in vicious tirades.
Judson, your assumption that all of Obama's laws and appointments would be canceled, treaties canceled, and Executive Orders voided, if he were declared ineligible for the Presidency, is not necessarily true.
It is just wishful thinking.
For example, what if you and your wife had been married by a preacher who was later found to have lied about having been graduated from a Seminary and ordained by a church. Would your marriage be automatically annulled and your children all declared bastards?
Probably not. The courts would find that everyone, including you and your wife, had accepted your marriage as fact, and would declare that your marriage is intact.
Your analogy does not match. What if you married your sister? When the truth came out the marriage would be annulled.
There is no statute of limitations connected to fraud upon the court, which is the situation the United States finds itself in now. Obama has never been eligible to be President of the United States, so all the accomplices are guilty of misprision of felony, including Pelosi, Onaka and various officials in the Hawaii DOH, Governor Abecrombie, the people who forged 3 different birth documents, the members of the Supreme Court,countless lower courts, Joe Biden, John Brennan, and Does 1 through 1000.
Your phrase of 'wishful thinking' was first introduced into this discussion by Jim Johnson's team of disinformation specialists. Honorable mention must go to the criminal Eric Holder for all his influence in keeping the courts in line.
If a law is signed by an illegal President it is null and void, as are his executive order and appointments. This is self evident.
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To whom it may concern: For the hundredth time in the last two years or so, Obama DID NOT WIN. It was a rigged election from the beginning. This faux person sitting in the hollowed chair in the people's White House did not win by overwhelming votes by true American CITIZENS, but by ACORN; also by millions of dollars donated illegally via foreign donations - for starters.
Blame the Left for Acorn control. With a vested interest in rigged elections, the Left have opposed efforts to curb voter fraud, such as state laws requiring a valid ID to vote as well as measures to cull deceased voters, felons, and former residents from voter rolls - and the list goes on. We saw this chicanery in local elections - such as Xavier Suarez's theft of the Miami electoral race over 4,500 absentee ballots submitted by bribed homeless people - and on the national level - such as Al Gore, etc, cooking the books.
And in a way, by the U.S. Supreme Court for accepting a forged birth certificate.
But most of all by the Anti-America MSM
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Now That Sheriff Joe Arpaio Has Submitted Smoking-Gun Proof That Barack Obama's So-Called Birth Certificate Is A Computer-Generated Forgery: Will Our Elected Officials Stand Up For What Is Right, Or Will They Run And Hide Like Pathetic Cowards?
We've known for far too long that the bogus birth certificate that Barack Obama published on the Internet was nothing more than a "computer-generated forgery."
But now, Sheriff Joe Arpaio's Cold Case Posse has produced incontrovertible evidence that the document is a fraud... incontrovertible evidence that even a member of Congress can understand... smoking-gun proof that even a thick-headed member of Congress simply can't dismiss or ignore.
That's why Sheriff Joe wants to take these Cold Case Posse findings to Congress as soon as humanly possible and we simply can't leave Sheriff Joe hanging in the breeze. Patriots, like you and me, must step up to the plate, see this fight through to the bitter end and turn up the heat on Congress. And that's exactly what we're going to do right here and right now.
Sheriff Joe Isn't Letting It Go And Barack Obama Very Desperately Wants You To Let It Go. So What Do You Believe You Should Do?
Yes, there are some folks out there who are saying that you should just give up the ghost, but do not forget for a moment that Barack Obama is one of them.
Some will remind you that an election is approaching, and claim that the energies of patriotic Americans might be better spent trying to un-elect a man from an office he should have never occupied in the first place; but that kind of talk is often no more than an excuse for cowardice. A pending election only makes this matter even more urgent.
That's why we're not buying it... any of it.
At the very least, should we not pressure Congress to address the issue for no other reason than to ensure that the American people KNOW that the man who could possibly get their vote in November, presented a fraudulent birth certificate to the public in an attempt to trick the American people into believing that he was eligible for the office he intends to occupy for four more years?
Should we not pressure Congress to address the issue for no other reason than it is the very last thing that Barack Obama wants... and it may very well be the one thing that likely keeps him awake at night?
Should we not push the issue for no other reason than to make it possible for our fellow Americans to know that the liberal media has gone above-and-beyond the call of duty, to the point of idiocy, to cover-up what may well turn out to be the greatest scandal of this yet young century?
But probably the most compelling reason why we must not give up, quite frankly, is because Sheriff Joe isn't giving up; and if Sheriff Joe is in this fight to the bitter end, each of us has an obligation to this to stay in this fight until the bitter end.
Should we betray a man who has sacrificed so much and come so far? ... Should we send the wrong message to our elected officials and let them know that they can GET AWAY WITH JUST ABOUT ANYTHING because patriotic Americans will simply give up and go away if they ignore our demands long enough?
Should we lie to ourselves and concede the point that there may be times when it is NOT advisable, as a matter of general principle, to assert our God-given rights as Americans to have our grievances heard and demand redress of those grievances?
We just don't say no... we say - Win, lose or draw, we will see this fight through to the bitter end and if you're with us, then you can make your voice heard right now.
They Found Her. The Mysterious Registrar "U.K.E. Lee" Who Allegedly Signed Obama's Birth Certificate. And Guess What She Had To Say?
Make no mistake, Obama's birth certificate is about as phony as a three dollar bill. Zullo went on to say: "The only legal authority which could have made the document [the Hawaii Department of Health], did not make it.”
According to a report filed by WND.com, after the press conference that was called on July 17 to present the new and shocking evidence: "Cold Case Posse lead investigator Mike Zullo said the new information confirms the document presented to the American public in April 2011 is undoubtedly fraudulent."
And just what was the incontrovertible proof?
It was actually staring us in the face the whole time.
When Barack Obama released his "digitally-altered" birth certificate back in April of 2011, people asked why did numbers, which appear to have been written in pencil (see the screen shot below), appear throughout the document, and what did these numbers signify?
Even Zullo admitted: "Nobody really knew what they were."
But now, we finally have answers.
The Cold Case Posse located and interviewed a number of individuals who had specific and firsthand knowledge of procedures in the Hawaii Department of Health; including Verna Lee, a.k.a., the mysterious U.K.E. Lee, now 95 years old, the Registrar whose signature is reproduced on the so-called birth certificate that Obama released to the public over a year ago.
And all parties independently verified that the number "9" that appears in pencil in field 9, (see the screen shot), indicates that the information that should go in that field was UNKNOWN (keep reading and we'll explain why in just a bit).
Put another way, if the image above were a copy of an original birth certificate, that field would be BLANK and, quite obviously, IT IS NOT.
The fact that ANY INFORMATION WHATSOEVER now appears in field "9" (if anything would have gone in that field, it would have been the word "unknown") in the birth certificate indicates that the information was added later on and the document Obama presented to the public IS NOT A COPY of an original birth certificate.
This newest revelation, of course, is totally consistent with the Cold Case Posse's original finding, after subjecting the birth certificate to forensic examination, in March that the document Obama actually produced was not only "digitally doctored," but was also compiled using "two or three" different source documents.
Game over. As Zullo so plainly put it: “This proves the document has been tampered with and information has been placed on it.”
And Obama's Father Was "Unknown?"
Did you notice that the information which presently appears in field number "9" (information that should not be there in the first place) in the alleged birth certificate, under the designation "Race of Father." reads "African?"
That's a huge problem for Mr. Obama because the designation "African" was not in use at the Hawaiian Health Department until 1989, a full 28 years after Barack Obama was born.
The designations and the corresponding number codes used in 1961, when Barack Obama was born, appear in the screenshot below.
Obviously, someone... who did not work at the Hawaiian Health Department... and moreover, lacked a credible command of recent American history, placed the word "African" into the document WELL AFTER THE FACT.
Zullo again: “The Department of Health didn’t create it. They didn’t create the file, somebody else did.”
So What Do Those Numbers Mean And Why Are They Present?
Now, some will ask if other birth certificates from 1961 show pencil marks. Another question that should be asked is if it is possible that the number "9" in field 9 of Obama's alleged birth certificate could be a clerical error.
We'll answer that question in a few paragraphs, but first, let's address the question, of whether or not those numbers in pencil are supposed to be there and what they mean.
All we need do is to look at the birth certificate of Susan Elizabeth Nordyke, one of the Nordyke twins, who was born the day AFTER Obama at Kapiolani Hospital.
Notice the same pencil marks. Notice the fact that the number codes are correctly rendered as "1" means "White" (or Caucasian as it is rendered on the certificate).
Also notice that the copy of the Nordyke birth certificate comes from a microfiche copy and not the fancy green laser printer paper that appears to have been used on the alleged birth certificate that Obama presented to the public.
As to why clerks were so busy scribbling numbers on birth certificates in pencil... ?
Zullo and the Cold Case Posse found out from Lee and others: “We discovered that the procedure for the department of health was to take a birth certificate, check it for accuracy and then code it with numerical values in some of the fields, such as ‘fathers race’ or ‘type of business or employment. They would take these numerical values that have designators to identify that information, then the federal government would take that information and put those numerical values on magnetic tape for their own census information.”
Moreover, Verna Lee and others, with credible knowledge of Hawaii Health Department procedures, told Zullo that it is incredibly unlikely that the number "9" that appears in the birth certificate Obama supplied to the public is a coding error from a Department of Health employee because all of the marked certificates were checked and then cross-checked by an entirely different set of eyes to ensure accuracy.
According to Zullo, when he asked Lee if an error was possible, Lee shot back at him; "Not on my watch." Particularly since the number "9" was known by all those who handled the records to typically signify a birth to a single mother. It would be unthinkable that two people would repeat a mistake of that magnitude.
So, now that conclusive proof of forgery has been submitted, the only question that remains is what will our elected officials in Washington do, now that they are armed with the knowledge that the man occupying the Oval Office, in an attempt to prove that he is eligible to hold that office, supplied the American people with a fraudulent document?
Two things are certain. If you press them to do the right thing, it is entirely possible, in spite of the now overwhelming hard evidence, that they might continue to sit on their hands and do nothing, while Barack Hussein Obama throws our great country down the chute, like yesterday's garbage.
But IF WE DON'T PRESS THEM AT ALL, and we don't press them NOW, then they WILL MOST CERTAINLY DO NOTHING... and that is TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE.
And If Undeniable Proof Isn't Good Enough, There's Still More. Lee Helped Solve Another Mystery That, Until Now, Had Gone Unanswered.
Verna Lee had more to say about another pesky issue that could not be explained for the longest time.
Look below at the birth numbers, taken from the birth certificate for Barack Obama (top) and the birth certificate from Susan Nordyke (bottom).
You will notice that Susan Nordyke's number is lower than Obama's, even though she was born the day AFTER Obama; and no one, not even the Cold Case Posse, could do more than offer theories as to how it would have been possible for Nordyke to be assigned a lower birth number than Obama
Verna Lee had no problem answering the question. According to what Lee told Zullo, Obama's number is out of sequence because he WAS NOT BORN AT Kapiolani Hospital and his birth was likely reported at a vital records satellite office.
Again, Lee's information simply confirms a theory that we advanced long ago and WND.com, in its reporting of the July 17 Cold Case Posse press conference, restated the premise that "an established resident of Hawaii, not necessarily a U.S. citizen" was "able to register an out-of-state or foreign-born person with an official Hawaii birth certificate."
As a matter of fact, while it was already know that section 338.17 of the Code of the State of Hawaii permitted the issuance of Hawaiian birth certificates under the criteria mentioned above, Arpaio related that he was shocked when he found out that the practice was actually quite commonplace.
As WND.com reported; "his team has discovered Hawaii provides easy access to a birth certificate, even if the child wasn’t born in the state" (emphasis on the word EASY) and Arpaio went so far as to call the very existence of such a policy "an imminent threat to national security."
But Let's Get Back To Verna Lee
Lee is clearly indicating that someone (either Barack Obama's mother, or his grandparents, or all of them) could have marched down to the nearest vital records office and filed Obama's birth as a Hawaiian birth.
Under Hawaiian law, they didn't need proof. The infant did not even need to be present. Give your word and it's done.
It would have been easy; and if we were to assume that Barack Obama was indeed born overseas and the relationship between Obama Sr. and Ann Dunham, as reported from far too many sources over the years, was on shaky ground, establishing "citizenship" for the infant Obama would have been the Dunham's first priority.
And yes, if Obama's birth certificate was obtained as a result of a visit to a vital records satellite office, then Obama's birth announcement would appear in the local papers.
Quick, someone alert FOX News' Bill O'Reilly that he could be wrong for the first time in his life.
Of course the above scenario assumes that the birth certificate number is indeed Mr. Obama's birth certificate number and not a copy-and-paste job from someone else's number altogether; which is still also within the realm of possibility.
Here's the bottom line.
Questions are still unanswered and our Republican leaders are going to have to show some backbone. Seriously, if some of them can lock hands with Team Obama and press Mitt Romney to release financial records with each passing day, then they should have the moral predisposition and the gumption to demand that Barack Obama start releasing some documents too (or does that sound too much like right?).
There's no excuse for their weak and cowardly behavior. If Mitt Romney supplied the American people with anything resembling a "made-up" tax return, Team Obama would be all over him. Obama's people, after all, had no problem falsely accusing Romney of criminal behavior even though the accusation was so outlandish that it made them look foolish.
It's frustrating, but for the sake of argument, let's just set aside, for an ever so brief moment, the definition of what actually constitutes "natural-born" citizenship and whether or not Obama would meet that standard (since his father was a foreigner), THIS MAN ARROGANTLY REFUSES TO VERIFY THAT HE'S EVEN A PLAIN OL' CITIZEN under any category or definition of the word.
So what's the problem with our Republican leaders?
They need to start demanding some documents from Mr. Transparency and they can start by demanding the document that Obama is still so determined to hide... a document that and would prove, whether or not the man who usurped the Oval Office is nothing more than a two-bit con-man and forger.
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"Tolerating evil in any form at any level only brings about more evil. As a result, the true cost of tolerating the intolerable is a totally intolerable society, from which you can never draft good government." - JB
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OBAMA: AMERICAS PLAGUE
A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.
Marcus Tullius Cicero [ancient Roman scholar, lawyer, statesman and orator 106BC - 43BC]
Very well said, Royce. I've sent my faxes and hope others will also.