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The Eligibility Issue


 

 

The left likes to call it the “birther” issue.   The term birther is used as a derisive term by the left, much as truther is.   Of course the difference is truthers beliefs are based on a paranoid ideology, where as the birther issue is based on facts.

 

I prefer to call it the eligibility issue, not the birther issue.  Whether you agree or not, the people who are pushing the eligibility issue are on our side.  It is certainly counter-productive to deride them like liberals do.

 

Recently a whole stream of Republicans have come out, at the prompting of the drive by media, to reassure us that Obama is a citizen and oh, yes, he is a Christian too. 

 

Last Sunday, at the prodding of David Gregory on Meet the Press, or as Rush likes to call it, Meet the depressed, Boehner said, the State of Hawaii had said he was born there, that was good enough for him. 

 

Karl Rove, not a friend of the Tea Party, pushed the RINO line that Obama is a citizen and Sarah Palin, at a meeting in Long Island, a few days ago, also denounced the eligibility issue.   Palin ended her remarks on the subject by saying, “let’s stick with what really matters.”

 

This issue does matter.

 

There are three variations on the eligibility issue.  Two are based on undisputed facts.  The third is in dispute.

 

The most commonly reported of the eligibility challenges is the claim that Obama was actually born in Kenya, not Hawaii.   I believe, based on the available evidence, that it is more likely than not, Obama was actually born in Hawaii.   Obama has spent a lot of time and (other people’s) money, keeping his original birth certificate out of sight. 

 

Why?

 

Jack Cashill is one of my favorite writers and he has a theory which I think makes sense, that Obama was in fact born in Hawaii, but there is something else on his birth certificate that would destroy the myth of Barack Obama.  (See his website, Cashill.com).   In the law, there is a presumption that if a party has exclusive access to a piece of evidence and will not release it, the evidence must be adverse to their position.

 

The second eligibility issue is the claim that because Barack Obama’s father was a Kenyan, a British subject at the time of Obama’s birth, he is not a natural born citizen.

 

The third is the argument that because Barack Obama was adopted as a child by an Indonesian and moved to Indonesia, he is not an American citizen.   Under the law at that time, if an American child was adopted by a citizen of another country and moved to that country, he lost his citizenship.   He could regain his citizenship by applying at an American Embassy when he was 18, but would then be treated as a naturalized citizen and thus ineligible to be President. 

 

What is stunning about all of this is the mainstream Republican reaction to the eligibility issues. 

 

The RINOs turn their noses up at the people who want the answers, which, incidentally is 60% of Republican voters.  They turn their noses up at the Tea Party movement.  Yet, they do not take a moment to consider why this is important.

 

If Barack Obama is proved to be ineligible to be President, everything he has done is wiped out.  Obamacare is gone.  The START treaty is gone.  The liberal lunatics Obama has appointed to the Federal Judiciary, including the two he has put on the Supreme Court are gone.

 

Much of the damage Obama has done to this country can be undone.  Unfortunately, the Country Club Republicans remain clueless. In their minds, the Democrats are simply the lower class versions of themselves.  They do not understand that if the party of treason has its way, America will be forever changed and ultimately destroyed.

 

The Courts have so far brushed aside all of the eligibility claims.  None have been addressed on the merits under the claim that Americans lack standing to challenge the issue.   Recently, the Supreme Court has given some indication it may consider one of the issues.  We can only hope.

 

What are the chances of success?  Who knows?

 

Why do football teams run the flea flicker play?   It does not work all of the time, but when it does, the results are spectacular.  Why should conservatives all hope this works out?  Because this wipes out almost everything the Obama regime has done.  We get a do over.

 

You would think, even the RINOs who want to denigrate the eligibility issue could figure this one out.

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Permalink Reply by Royce Latham on July 18, 2012 at 1:16pm

AP reports. You decide

from:http://news.yahoo.com/arpaio-obama-birth-record-definitely-fraudule...

PHOENIX (AP) — Investigators for an Arizona sheriff's volunteer posse have declared that President Barack Obama's birth certificate is definitely fraudulent.

Members of Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio's posse said in March that there was probable cause that Obama's long-form birth certificate released by the White House in April 2011 was a computer-generated forgery.

Now, Arpaio says investigators are positive it's fraudulent.

Mike Zullo, the posse's chief investigator, said numeric codes on certain parts of the birth certificate indicate that those parts weren't filled out, yet those sections asking for the race of Obama's father and his field of work or study were completed.

Zullo said investigators previously didn't know the meaning of codes but they were explained by a 95-year-old former state worker who signed the president's birth certificate. Zullo said a writer who published a book about Obama's birth certificate and was aiding investigators let them listen in on an interview he conducted of the former state worker.

The Obama campaign declined to comment on Arpaio's allegations.

The Arizona Democratic Party said in a statement that Arpaio's investigation is intended to draw attention away from problems within his own agency, such as hundreds of sex-crime cases that the sheriff's office failed to adequately investigate over a three-year period.

So-called "birthers" maintain Obama is ineligible to be president because, they contend, he was born in Kenya.

Hawaii officials have repeatedly confirmed Obama's citizenship, and state officials did again Tuesday.

"President Obama was born in Honolulu and his birth certificate is valid," Joshua A. Wisch, a special assistant to Hawaii's attorney general, said in a statement. "Regarding the latest allegations from a sheriff in Arizona, they are untrue, misinformed, and misconstrue Hawaii law."

Wisch also said that "not only are Hawaii's vital records some of the best managed, but they also have some of the strongest restrictions on access to prevent identity theft and fraud."

Obama released a copy of his long-form birth certificate in an attempt to quell citizenship questions.

Courts have rebuffed lawsuits over the issue.

Permalink Reply by Royce Latham on July 18, 2012 at 1:35pm

Permalink Reply by Liberty on July 18, 2012 at 1:57pm

The left's new attack is you were successful because of government.  Ford was successful because government built roads.  We need to remind Obama:  Government is the people.  We are the government.  Government does not exist without the people you despise.  The people you despise will always exist without government.  The government will not exist without the people. The people have built roads with private funds.  The government has never built a road without the people's money.  The people have created a business where you can move mail and freight without the government and successfully I might add. The government needs the people to build the same business albeit unsuccessfully.  The people's money creates government, Obama.  You are not government Obama.  We the people are the government.  Too many of us have forgotten that.  WE ARE THE PEOPLE. Our money is ours, not yours. The word tax needs to be replaced.  People have become numb to the word tax.  It is the people's money.  We need to take the word tax and make it more personal to us.  It is our money. We shop and look for best prices available because we don't want store A to take more money from us so we travel to store B.  That is personal to us.  We are holding on to the dollar that we earned.  We need to make taxes more personal and demand to keep more of our money and reduce the size and salaries of the people we employ in Washington.

Permalink Reply by Elizabeth Shea on July 18, 2012 at 2:05pm

Obama put his foot in his mouth when he said "If you have a business, you did not build that.   Somebody else made that happen."

As soon as I heard those words, I could "envision" the look on the faces of American business owners.   It was as if he waved a red cape right in front of a fighting bull!"   The business owners are furious!

What has Obama ever built?   He's a destroyer, not a builder.

Permalink Reply by Royce Latham on July 18, 2012 at 1:45pm

from:http://www.humanevents.com/2012/07/16/romney-asks-why-president-tra...

Romney asks why President Obama won’t release Fast and Furious documents

By: John Hayward
7/16/2012 11:55 AM

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It’s about time: Mitt Romney has responded to the Obama campaign’s scurrilous insinuations about his private-sector past by wondering when President Transparency might get around to letting us see those Fast and Furious documents he and Attorney General Eric Holder have been protecting:

As Romney noted, Fast and Furious is “not some personal matter,” but rather “the action of his administration.”  He might also note the Obama administration’s extreme reluctance to disclose information about such actions as its “green energy” loans, or Gulf oil drilling moratorium.  The Senate had to use subpoenas to pry information out of the Administration over the Fort Hood shootings.

This is surely one of the most secretive Administrations in history, a point highlighted with Kafkaesque absurdity when the Obama administration censored 194 pages of internal emails about… its Open Government Directive.  To paraphrase Winston Churchill’s description of Russia, Barack Obama remains a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma, issuing loud whines about other people’s lack of transparency.

 

Permalink Reply by Royce Latham on July 18, 2012 at 2:38pm

see http://www.dickmorris.com/denise-rich-clinton-pal-renounces-us-citi...

Dick Morris adviser to Bill Clinton has a video about Denise Rich renouncing her American Citizenship. She approached White House council Quinn for a pardon for her husband Marc Rich. Marc Rich fled the United States while under investigation.  While residing in Switzerland, he was indicted for making an oil deal with Iran as they were holding Americans hostage.  Denise Rich approached Jack Quinn and gave the Clinton's hundreds of thousands of dollars for Bill's Presidential Library.  The pardon board rejected the pardon as did the prosecuting attorney.  Quinn did an end run to Eric Holder.  Holder wrote Bill Clinton a memo saying that DOJ approved the pardon.  On Clinton's last day in office he signed the pardon for Marc Rich, who never served a day in prison.

Leo Wanta, CIA operative and Ambassador to Somalia, went to Switzerland to arrest Rich in July of 1993.  Rich was tipped off of Wanta's arrival, most likely by fellow Mosad agent Rahm Emanuel.  Rich got away and Wanta was imprisoned in Switzerland.  Vince Foster at the same time had traveled to Switzerland to ask for $250,000,000 on behalf of Hillary for the Children's Defense Fund from Wanta's trust for the American People. The money was tansfered.

Vince Foster returned to America and tried to secure Wanta's release. On July 19,1993 Willliam Sessions, who had issued the arrest warrant for Rich was summarily fired as Director of the FBI.  On the next day, July 20, 1993 Vince Foster committed suicide with a gun that showed no fingerprints and transported himself after the event to Fort Marcie Park in Alexandria, Virginia.  Hillary had the hard drive removed from his computer before investigators arrived at Foster's White House office.

The Children's Defense Fund was Hillary's personal slush fund.

Marc Rich, Leo Wanta, Vince Foster, Eric Holder, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Children's Defense Fund.  Connect the dots.

Eric Holder, a criminal enterprise, smack in the middle of murder, corruption, extortion, false imprisonment and scandal, yet again. Eric Holder has intimate knowledge of crime at the highest levels of our government spanning 4 administrations.  The waterboarding of Holder would lay all the misdeeds of our lifetime open for all to see.

Hillary Clinton and Vince Foster

Permalink Reply by Saska on July 18, 2012 at 3:23pm

Isn't Leo Wanta part of the Vatican Bank Slush Fund? Romney is into this treason to America BIG-TIME and has his own account there!! For anyone here who knows the TRUTH and is still supporting oRobMe, then you have gone over to the Dark Side and are now part of the problem in this country, instead of being part of the solution!!

 

NOW is the Time for All Good Patriots to come to the aid of their Country and QUIT MITT & RECRUIT NEWT!! Open GOP Convention 2012!! NEWT 2012!! America SAVED 2012!!

 

We really DO have a chance to SAVE AMERICA, think about it!!

Permalink Reply by Royce Latham on July 18, 2012 at 4:53pm

Saska

Are you suggesting that  we support Obama because Romney is tied into the gravy train?


Here is some more on Marc Reich (renamed Rich) from a Vatican Bank blog:

from:http://vaticanbank.blogspot.com/

Marc Rich the commodity bandit and "spook" was so interwoven with the White House of George Bush The Elder and later, Bill Clinton, you could not hardly tell whether the White House dirty tricks department was in Washington or Zug, Switzerland, one of Rich's outpposts. To escape being prosecuted, Rich did not return from Zug to face the big-time Federal Criminal music in the 1980s. At the time the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, Rudolph W. Giuliani (later N.Y. city Mayor), wanted to put Rich in jail. A Bush Family confidant, Giuliani nevertheless found out too late that Marc Rich was the American CIA's laundry man and was immune. When Rudy started to run for U.S. Senator from New York against carpetbagger Hillary Clinton, in the year 2000 Election, she was afraid he would mouth off about her and Foster and Marc Rich. So, Hillary's press agents reportedly launched a pre-emptive strike planting details publicly of Giuliani's marital troubles. And so, Rudy side-stepped the whole mess and the Election, by divulging what he must have already known, that he was ill with cancer.

Permalink Reply by Saska on July 18, 2012 at 5:38pm

The choice is NOT between oRobMe & oVomit, yet!! That's what I'm talking about. Romney does NOT have enough delegates to get the nom on the first vote (I KNOW THIS), he's LYING to you about that, along with FAUX, and all of the other news orgs.  DO NOT BELIEVE THEM, I KNOW some things behind the story! DO NOT PROMOTE oRobMe because he is a HUGE PART of this problem that we have here in this country.  He's been CHOSEN to take the fall, just like McLame!! Well I'm not going to drink the COMMIE GOP ELITE POISON they are trying to shove down our throats!! Royce, I know you to be an excellent, reasonable person, please listen to me!! DO NOT PROMOTE a SNAKE to replace another SNAKE (ok, so oRobMe is an American citizen, but he may not be an NBC)!!  I just cannot sit back at this point in time and be silent about this!!  Again, supporting oRobMe at this time is the same as supporting oVomit because he CANNOT win against oVomit!!

 

If Barry and Willard debate Willard will bring his MITTENS. NEWT will bring his boxing gloves. He will be in this to wipe up the floor with Barry. Newt will also bring his KNIFE(VES) and his GUN(S)!!

 

HE WILL TALK THE TRUTH because he's the only one who has the balls to do it!!  The difference between Romney and Newt is that Newt really does want to SAVE this country.  Romney just wants to be president.

Permalink Reply by T Ingram on July 18, 2012 at 6:40pm

No "Link"? CCm'monnnn Saska I want to feel the seething hate for Romney that you feel. Just show me the proof dear.

I would look myself but I can't imagine where you're finding these heretofore unknown facts about Romney so, let's verify together.

Thanks,

 

T

Permalink Reply by Saska on July 19, 2012 at 1:22pm

Here's a link, I notice that Royce is not posting links about Wanta, and he's not denying that oRobMe is involved.  Newt is NOT DONE and oRobMe is IMPLODING right on schedule!! All I can ask is that you silly Romney supporters hope for the TRUTH and we get an OPEN Convention or WE ARE F'd, same with oVomit, because oRobMe, the FLAWED Candidate can't even discuss obamaoromneycare intelligently because its based on romneycare! If you are delusional enough to think that oRobMe can beat oVomit with his MITTENS on you are crazy!!  The link below is where Royce is getting his Wanta info, he's just leaving out MittWitt when he posts!

 

http://tdarkcabal.blogspot.com/2012/01/january-26-2012-white-hats-r...

Permalink Reply by Janet Dobbs on July 19, 2012 at 3:32pm

I had read some articles and research info a while back and one of them inferred that Leo Wanta was a hoax.

I'll try to find what I read on this, I don't think I saved it.

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