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Paul Ryan just redeemed himself in my mind. If you are a true Conservative and care about Christianity at all, you MIGHT want to mention the entire Nation WILL in fact go bankrupt, and then the help to the poor will BE the job of the U.S. Government; they won't be going anything else.
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Permalink Reply by Debrajoe Smith-Beatty on May 6, 2012 at 7:45pm Thanks.
Permalink Reply by Kristin Fecteau on May 6, 2012 at 7:59pm I have been having a day-long debate on Facebook with a liberal friend over JUST THIS TOPIC! wow!
Permalink Reply by Russell Edmund Fowler on May 6, 2012 at 8:02pm Paul Ryan has been studing the economic of the world since he was a boy or young man. I have a lot of faith in him.
Permalink Reply by Norman Zink on May 6, 2012 at 8:02pm How did we get to be this way?? because of the Government, silly!
I have always liked Paul Ryan, even if he does look like Eddie Munster grown up.
Permalink Reply by Roc29 on May 6, 2012 at 8:40pm Mr. Ryan's critics are not practicing Christianity when they call for the government to care for the poor. I challenge anyone to show me where Christ said give to Caesar so that Caesar may help the poor. Christian teaching says that we are to help the poor despite Caesar not through Caesar.
The reason Christianity does not rely on Caesar is that government has nothing to give to anyone that it has not first taken by physical force or by force of law from someone else.
Governments Consume
Governments don’t produce wealth. If this were not true, why do governments collect taxes? Why don’t they just pay their bills out of the wealth that they have produced? The fact is that all governments, from the very first, consume wealth. Everything that the government does, even if necessary or important, is consumption.
Prior to the 18th century, all Governments acquired wealth by invasion, conquest, enslaving the conquered, various forms of subjection (serf, vassal, coolie, etc.) and by taxing.
Then some genius philosophers came along and said that men should not be subjects but should be free. That they, not the government, should benefit from their labor. That government power should be limited to that which only the government can do such as protect them from enemies abroad and miscreants at home. That the government should be supported by tariffs and if taxing became necessary, all should be taxed equally. They eschewed democracy and created a Constitutional Republic.
Then in 1913 the Republic was turned into a Democracy, a form of government that our Founding Fathers considered suicidal.
Today we are 16 trillion dollars in debt and counting. National wealth production is on a descending trajectory. With increased government activity, wealth consumption is on an ascending trajectory.
Since we no longer teach the basics of economics (we teach a lot of advanced gobbledygook that few understand and is forgotten as soon as finals are over) few people understand how wealth is created. They demand that the government create jobs not understanding that any jobs created by the government just consume more wealth. They believe that we can create wealth with a service economy. They don’t understand that wealth consists of transferable assets. Where do you find services listed on a balance sheet?
Wealth can only be created in the private sector. People growing, building and making things that others will give up time and energy to acquire. Private sector jobs are what we need not jobs created by Washington.
Washington is so busy trying to tell us how to live that they are failing at one of the things that they are supposed to do, as stated above, protect us from miscreants at home. Despite repeated warnings, since 2000 by Harry Markopolos, Washington failed to act to stop Bernie Madoff.
But they are quick to tell us what to grow by consuming wealth in order to provide subsidies to farmers to grow corn for ethanol which resulted in increased costs for food. Then cotton farmers planted corn instead of cotton so as to profit from the subsidies. This resulted in cotton production moving to South America. For those of you that are slow learners, growing cotton produces wealth, subsidizing corn consumes wealth. And ethanol from corn consumes more energy than it produces.
The con artists in Washington tell us that they will pay for their hand outs (including those to farmers and businesses) by taxing big business and the wealthy. They get away with this lie because, due to economic ignorance, we don’t understand that businesses don’t pay taxes the purchasers of their goods and services pay the taxes for them, even when the buyer earns less than $250,000 or is poor. And taxing the wealthy doesn’t work, because they don’t become wealthy by being stupid. When income tax rates on the wealthy reached 90% it became cheaper to pay lawyers and accountants fees than to pay the taxes. If you lower taxes it becomes cheaper to pay the tax than to avoid it. This results in more revenue.
So, they say, we’ll just pass more and more laws to prevent them from avoiding the tax. Well, Washington expanding or creating agencies to enforce these laws just consumes more wealth increasing our debt. And, the more laws you have the more of a police state you become.
That’s why our founder’s made a distinction between “Natural law” and “Man Made” law. Natural law can be thought of as cultural. Freedom is possible when the culture informs the law. When the law informs the culture, you have tyranny. The road to power and tyranny is paved with Man Made law. That’s the road that we’re on. The question is: How do we get off this road?
American History education has been corrupted. Political "right fights" have replaced philosophical inquiry. Sophistry and rhetoric have turned us into the Tower of Babble where little is understood and emotion informs our decisions. We are Rome and I fear for my country.
Permalink Reply by John Wiant on May 6, 2012 at 9:27pm Roc29, I've never seen anything posted by you before. You should write a lot MORE. : )
I really enjoyed that. I'll have to copy that and send it to my email buddies. Thanks!
Permalink Reply by Roc29 on May 7, 2012 at 7:59am John Wiant:
Thanks for the compliment. I've posted Liberty or Tyranny on TPN. Also, you might find some interesting posts and videos on our Tea Party web site Message Boards
Permalink Reply by hunter60 on May 7, 2012 at 5:54am With unfunded mandates the real liabilities of the US government are more than 100 trillion dollars. The bottom line is that the progressive movement has turned the entire federal system on its head and created the worlds largest organized crime syndicate.
In my opinion Natural Law is the immutable statement, it describes the inalienable rights of all, I dont consider them "cultural" but the bedrock of human rights and interaction. Everything else is regulatory and now, a projection of government force at the behest of separate interests. Governments primary roles have been expanded by political criminals to include things the system was never designed for, as a result we have the soft tyranny that is in place now.
On philosophy, the ages old corrupt philosophies that have caused us to arrive at this place will propagate their errors into the next iteration of our government. Nothing will change if we don't change the philosophical underpinnings of our society. I'm not certain that's actually possible before most everything we know is gone.
Permalink Reply by James Fitzmaurice on May 7, 2012 at 6:34am Do you mind if I share this? Would you like to have your name attached to it? It is concise and powerful.
Permalink Reply by William E. Hall on May 7, 2012 at 9:53am Roc29, this is an outstanding post!!!! Thank you for writing it. I agree totally. Keep up the good work of educating our people as to what our government's purpose should be as versus what it has become. I am totally like you.
I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!!!!!
He's right. I have thought about that several times, but the Fema camps are supposed to handle 25 million deaths. Who doyou imagine will be first? While I fear that he will attack Christians and Jews, he may decide to wipe out a lot of the poor first. He needs their money to party. I think Paul is better looking than that
Ronisue
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