When I was in Washington this past Friday, I walked by the United Methodist Building, next to the Russell Office Building.  The sign in front of the United Methodist Building said, “Pass the DREAM Act.”


I have a DREAM.  That is, no more United Methodist Church.


I grew up in the Methodist church.  I left as a teenager because the Methodist Church is little more than the first Church of Karl Marx.   After all, what can you say about a church that considers Hillary Clinton to be a member in good standing?


Today, the Methodist Church is little more than the “religious” arm of socialism.


The Methodist church is pro-illegal immigration.  They have been in the bag for socialist health care, going as far as sending out emails to their membership “debunking” the myths of Obamacare.

Say, where are the liberal complaints on the separation of church and state?


I guess their outrage is selective.


The Methodists joined the Socialists, Communists and Marxists for the “One Nation” March.   While the Methodists have been outraged that American used force to respond to 9/11, they remained shockingly silent on the torture by Muslims.


Reading the Methodist social justice manifesto is like reading a socialist wish list.   They want amnesty, they want “economic justice”, they opposed “global climate change” (earth to the Methodists, man isn’t doing it), fighting global poverty (here is another hint, most poverty is caused by a lack of freedom and lack of a free enterprise system).  Not shockingly, the Methodists side with the Islamists against Israel, and of course oppose America in Iraq.


In short, if you hate America, you have a great future in the Methodist church.


At the local level, there are some good people and they even have a few decent ministers left, though not many.


I left the Methodist church over 35 years ago.  I have never looked back.   The Methodist church is an embarrassing joke.


I have a DREAM too.  My dream is the Methodist church goes out of business.


Given the Methodist church’s demographics and the rate they are losing members, that should happen sooner, rather than later.


For the few remaining patriots in the Methodist church, know what that church supports and then you should abandon the church, much like the Methodist church as abandoned American values and patriotism.



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Hi Jane,  that sign I saw on Friday just put me over the edge.  I'm sick of the sanctimonious liberals and I'm sick of the Methodist church being the religious arm of socialism in this country.

Every post you make gets worse and worse...if this sort of bigotry continues it will be time for the Tea Party to close its doors as we will have lost our credibility.  Liberals love it when they can get Christians and Conservatives at each other's throats - and you are giving them great ammunition against us.

well said charles well said. i for one had no idea the methodist church had these views and probably would not have known for a long time had it not been for this article. thankyou charles and thankyou judson.

All of Christianity is the religious arm of socialism. That's why John Adams, the founding father most comfortable with mixing religion and politics, still said: "I mix religion with politics as little as possible," in his letter to Benjamin Rush.


Acts 4:32 All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had. 33 With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And God’s grace was so powerfully at work in them all 34 that there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales 35 and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need.


That's why Jefferson wrote, "Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man & his god, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;" thus building a wall of eternal separation between Church & State. Congress thus inhibited from acts respecting religion, and the Executive authorised only to execute their acts"

Good for your particular church!  You are in the minority as far as we've traveled.  Our local Methodists have "gone green" and have all manner of anti-American movie nights.  We attended one church's movie night and were informed that "You can be athiest & Christian"  that "aren't we all doubting Thomases?"  Our biggest Methodist congregation (Senator Dick Lugar RINO is a member there) is all about social justice and flaunting the laws of God and man.  They have gay ministers and openly adore the gayness of a homosexual couple I know (aren't they so sweet?).  Good luck keeping your church from going downhill - it really is all about the congregants. If you won't tolerate nonsense, they'll have a hard time doing it.  Here in Indianapolis, the Methodists have lost their salt.

I am a Christian conservative. The Methodist Church has left me and what Jesus taught in the bible. Our neighborhood Methodist Church preaches out of philosphy books these days, not the bible. Read Thessal. 2.9. 

You need to recken with this change.

Jane, I'm not even Methodist and I found this post to be offensive to everything this country stands for. Time for the this particular branch of the Tea Party to take some stock in their rhetoric. We don't suppress religious beliefs in this country. (Do we?)

So if a church wants to push socialism, we are just going to give them a pass because they are a church?

And then there is the Westboro Church that has turned military funerals into nightmares.

I know what I would like to do with the Westboro clowns, but it would violate their rights against cruel and unusual punishments.

I think that in actuality, Westboro Baptist really has nothing to do with religious faith at all. Their behaviors are part of their "business model." They earn income by inciting people to respond badly to them so they can sue them.

One of the problems many churches face is we have abdicated our Christian responsibility for charity to the Government. We are content to let them tax and administer to the poor and hungry rather then have the church full fill its Christian responsibility.


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