If you are a real American, you might want to say no to New York City. If you believe in Constitutional Rights, you might want to say no to New York City.
What is so wrong with New York City?
New York City is Constitution free zone.
Back in December, Tea Party Patriots leader Mark Meckler was arrested for unlawful possession of a firearm. Meckler had a California carry permit, which is not valid in New York. While following the correct procedures for shipping a firearm on an aircraft, he was arrested for violating New York law.
A couple of weeks later, Meredith Graves, a fourth year medical student from Tennessee was arrested at the 9/11 memorial, after seeing the sign that says no gun and asking where she could secure her gun. She had a concealed carry permit from Tennessee.
Recently a former Marine, Ryan Jerome was arrested at the Empire State Building. He too saw a sign saying no guns and asked where he could secure his gun. In Jerome’s case, he had looked online and received some very bad information that made him think his concealed carry permit was valid in New York.
New York politicians are in complete panic. While they are not that concerned about Meckler’s case, with Graves and now Jerome’s case, they are in a panic that New York’s draconian gun control laws will cause a public relations nightmare for NYC.
Perhaps someone should tell the politicians of New York, the problem is not public relations, the problem is you have stupid laws that run afoul of the Constitution.
There is at least one possible solution, H.R. 822 the National Right to Carry Reciprocity Act, which would require every state to recognize other states’ concealed carry permits.
New Yorkers are no longer citizens, they are victims. New York’s laws have stripped them of the right to bear arms and defend themselves. Does anyone really think that criminals are going to pay attention to the signs that say no guns at the WTC memorial or the Empire State Building?
The real problem is that liberals now control New York. The key word here is control. Liberals do not believe in governance. They believe in control. They want to control every aspect of someone’s life. From protecting yourself, to what you can say or even what you can eat, liberals want to control everything.
Unfortunately for Americans caught in New York and other liberal havens, liberalism sucks. It is a complete failure. Most intelligent people will try something and if it fails, they learn from their failure and will do something different.
Liberalism has a huge track record of failure. In fact, you would be hard pressed to think of ANYTHING liberals have championed that could be called a success. It is all but impossible to think of something they have championed that is consistent with liberty and freedom.
New York needs to repeal its draconian gun control laws. They have done nothing but disarm the law-abiding citizens while criminals still have guns. There is a reason why our founding fathers thought the right to keep and bear arms was important enough to include in the Constitution.
That Constitution still applies today.
Even in New York City.
i am so drunk
New "Joke" has always been a poster child for the mass WESTWARD migration in this country.
I just did a "Google" search of associations representing firearms retailers. Here are some of the results:
AFI is the official monthly publication for the Professional Gun Retailers Association (PGRA) and the National Association of Federally Licensed Firearms ...
The NAFR is dedicated to providing professional firearms retailers with a unified voice in regulatory and legislative affairs, facilitating communication with other ...
State Firearms Retailer Associations. The National Shooting Sports Foundation is proud to recognize and partner with these independent state retailer ...
In a reply to another post, I wrote,
"...NRA members and supporters should boycott NY, both the state and the city. Someone should write to any firearms retailers' association(s) there might be and ask them to ask their memberships to post a list of states and cities no 2nd Amendment supporter should ever choose to go to, and to ask ever person who purchases a firearm or ammunition to sign a pledge that they refuse to visit any such state or city unless otherwise compelled by the terms of their employment. These signed pledges should be sent to state houses and mayors offices and, most of all, to hotel, restaurant and entertainment associations in each of these states and cities."
If any of you really care about this issue, and if you think my idea has merit, let's hash out the details here and actually try to get it done.
I don't know why anyone would want to go to NY. Always having to look over your shoulder out of fear of getting mugged. And what I've heard, they aren't the friendliest of people anyways. Not worth seeing the sites if you have to be in constant fear...........No wonder law abiding people visiting NY want to carry guns............
It is a new day and Wow I don't even remember posting all that stuff.
I love NY
I do not agree with New Yorks ruling but H.R. 822 is not the answer. Remember the 10th Amendment? If it's not listed in the Constitution, it is left up to the states or We the People. You have to believe all of the Constitution and not believe some of it.
That's one way to look at it, Ken, but there's another. The 2nd Amendment was affirmed as an individual right in Heller, and "incorporated" throughout the Union in McDonald: the other way to look at is H.R. 822 being a clarification and uniform expression of our rights under the 2nd Amendment. As a protected Constitutional and incorporated right, H.R. 822 only informs the states that they must apply a uniform interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, much as case law has made the Miranda warnings uniform throughout the Union.
Ken, here's where we disagree - and if I don't convince you, that's okay: how best to secure a right under the Constitution is the kind of disagreements we should have more often, instead of arguing for the Constitution all the time while the other side argues against it.
Here's the 10th Amendment: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." H.R. 822 isn't exercising or claiming a power, though. What it would do is guarantee that a citizen from (say) Georgia can exercise a Constitutional right the way his state (per the 10th) has interpreted it, relying on Article IV, Section One of the Constitution: "Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof." The issuance of a carry permit - or even the permission to carry without a permit - is a state act, and "...Congress...by [this] Law...[intends only to] prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof."
I thank that NY NY should put every law abiding citizen that even thanks they might want a gun in prison. Only the COPs and gangs should have guns. I take that back, what would a COP need with a gun in such a grate and safe city?