There still seems to be some disagreement of who should be the RNC candidate for 2012. This discussion's not about the candidates!
It's about published rules. It's about ignoring said rules. It's about unequal application of rules! Also, about disenfranchisement of voters. And documents certain untruths.
Perhaps it's also about where we shall go from here....can we trust the RNC in the future to follow the will of the voters?
Let us begin:
In a Press release, April 1010 the RNC Announced the 2012 Presidential Nominating Schedule Committee rules. In a nutshell, the published rules are as follows:
This takes us to violations in SC and N.H. as well as Fla.. RNC chairman Reince Priebus's statement @ http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.com/2011/10/25/gop-chairman-flori..."However, as a consequence, South Carolina and New Hampshire will also be stripped of half their delegates for the Republican National Convention"
These carve-out states are also defined in 2008_RULES_Adopted.pdf, an earlier document referenced later as well, below.
A misstatement by Chairman Reince Priebus?
Doubtful..clearly stated in both documents. In modern English. Not in "Legalese"
How do the present total delegate counts compare, by applying the RNC's established and standing rules? I ran a quick spreadsheet: the output lines of which follow:
The general council is referencing the 2008_RULES_Adopted.pdf, an earlier document and is choosing selected references only.... and only one the applicable clauses of rule 16! Without referencing the clauses, either... But let's look briefly at the 2008 document...
Among the clauses misapplied would be South Carolina's halving of delegates, in defiance of 15.(b)(1)
The RNC council also misstated on Tuesday when he said " In addition, the RNC Rules Committee imposed every available discretionary penalty ..." Reference is made to
Perhaps he didn't lie, since this is a mandatory penalty that was not applied, not discretionary!
To say that the RNC lacks control....they retain the authority to not seat them, hotel location, guest privileges,VIP passes and everything, really!See 16.(e)(3) for starters.
One can find many, many direct infractions of the rules, in both publications. All I will say is that we are being lied to repeatedly in these matters. You can read or take my word for it....I've provided links, references, quoted passages and so on.
There's a lot more...I'm just not going to waste my time or yours further at this time! This post is simply getting too long. I've edited out about half of the information
What say you?
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No, no, not that complicated. Anyone who reads here with any regularity knows that you've stated the same numbers before with a broad outline of the reasoning behind the numbers. This post spells out what makes those numbers true and blue. Don't kick yourself over it. It was introduced by you long before you posted it. A great post, indeed.
Thank you, Mr. Shotwell.
THE republicans like democrats 'SPEAK WITH FORKED TONGUE" !
Vern, both parties have been in the hands of the progressives for a very long time.
If Romney governs as a liberal, which is his track record, he will break the back of the conservative movement and will destroy the Republican Party. Well, Yes he will, and in that destruction hopefully a phoenix will arise and become a more representative political party. As the RNC doesn't represent remotely how I feel or what even THEY believed in years ago. I have refused to join any political party as there is the inherent "lesser of two evils" always running and I am sick of it. I guess the "best man for the job' doesn't want all the political destruction of character that comes with running for office. The whole political process is corrupt and needs reformation.
The fix is in! This is political theater at its best, with the outcome NEVER in doubt!
Lawsuit? That's for you lawyer types to figure out.
The date issues add more layers of complexity than I've alluded to...perhaps somebody will pursue them here.
But my post was already too long...and too hard to follow. I couldn't find a way to further simplify or compress it!
Couldn't agree more, Diane. Makes perfect sense!
And now is not to early to start looking into the how to form and rules one must abide by. It's a super idea that is much needed Diana. But C.C.P. sounds Communist...lol