There still seems to be some disagreement of who should be the RNC candidate for 2012. This discussion's not about the candidates!
It's about published rules. It's about ignoring said rules. It's about unequal application of rules! Also, about disenfranchisement of voters. And documents certain untruths.
Perhaps it's also about where we shall go from here....can we trust the RNC in the future to follow the will of the voters?
Let us begin:
In a Press release, April 1010 the RNC Announced the 2012 Presidential Nominating Schedule Committee rules. In a nutshell, the published rules are as follows:
This takes us to violations in SC and N.H. as well as Fla.. RNC chairman Reince Priebus's statement @ http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.com/2011/10/25/gop-chairman-flori..."However, as a consequence, South Carolina and New Hampshire will also be stripped of half their delegates for the Republican National Convention"
These carve-out states are also defined in 2008_RULES_Adopted.pdf, an earlier document referenced later as well, below.
A misstatement by Chairman Reince Priebus?
Doubtful..clearly stated in both documents. In modern English. Not in "Legalese"
How do the present total delegate counts compare, by applying the RNC's established and standing rules? I ran a quick spreadsheet: the output lines of which follow:
The general council is referencing the 2008_RULES_Adopted.pdf, an earlier document and is choosing selected references only.... and only one the applicable clauses of rule 16! Without referencing the clauses, either... But let's look briefly at the 2008 document...
Among the clauses misapplied would be South Carolina's halving of delegates, in defiance of 15.(b)(1)
The RNC council also misstated on Tuesday when he said " In addition, the RNC Rules Committee imposed every available discretionary penalty ..." Reference is made to
Perhaps he didn't lie, since this is a mandatory penalty that was not applied, not discretionary!
To say that the RNC lacks control....they retain the authority to not seat them, hotel location, guest privileges,VIP passes and everything, really!See 16.(e)(3) for starters.
One can find many, many direct infractions of the rules, in both publications. All I will say is that we are being lied to repeatedly in these matters. You can read or take my word for it....I've provided links, references, quoted passages and so on.
There's a lot more...I'm just not going to waste my time or yours further at this time! This post is simply getting too long. I've edited out about half of the information
What say you?
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Sounds like they're gonna have who they want no matter what the rules say!
Do we have to get all mean and nasty with Mr. Priebus?
Frankly, Jeff, I don't really want to say where my thoughts are going!
Doesn't look like the opinions of Conservatives matters much, does it?
Newt, Santorum, Sarah, whoever are thrown under the bus. All for the big tent! Looks like Conservatives are left out in the rain, however. What do we do now?
I did that much, 4 days ago. When I realized that the will of the voters had been subverted by misreporting........Now what?
Now, get vicious!
Then get active!
We need a lawyer to sue the RNC...anybody know one? Hint...(his initials are J.P.)
I don't suppose Newt would stand up on his hind legs and challenge the RNC himself or even sue to force them to apply their own rules.
What say we Tea Partiers instead of marching on Washington DC go and blast the RNC headquarters!!! The majority of us are registered republicans anyway...
Maybe crawl out from under the bus and start fighting the abusive husband instead of crawling back to him time and time again.
If Newt is not the nominee, we should look into a 3rd party call THE TEA PARTY with Newt and Rick Santorum as our nominees.....
Amen to that!
I have been saying that for years. I can't remember who said this, but it was a few decades ago "there isn't a dime's worth of difference between the republicans and democrats. If that was true then, how much more is it true now? They are all politicans that think they know how to run our lives better than we do? It is time to give it up on the establishment and get another party going.
Governor George Corley Wallace said that when he ran for President "1968-72 timeframe". TRUE THEN AND DAMN SURE TRUE NOW !