The recent Nevada results have me very concerned. Is our movement loosing steam? It looks like Romney has the economic advantage over reason.
I know many of us got a little irate when our revolution was compared to the Occupy movement. I was proud of the comparison. Even though we are on both sides of the political spectrum, I respect many of the original Occupy Wall Streeters for taking a stand. Then slime and undesirables contaminated their protest just like racism and hate contaminated our once pure resolve. Many of us have the same passion that made 2010 an historic event but we have become too heavy with the burden of our own growth.
There is even a group that split from our group called, get this, TEA PARTY FOR OBAMA. If any of you remember Johnny Macintosh, who I think was a member, has gone over as well as all of Wes Arnold’s “Boots for Bachmann” group. This is insane but not totally unbelievable. I went to check out the website and there it is, our original vision but with a revised clarity that, gag, Obama is better than any of the current Republican lineup. Recent polls suggest that Americans' opinion of the hardline conservative movement has soured as they've learned more about it. Even the Drudge Report noted how the tide has began to turn for the Tea Party Movement.
With the absence of Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, Chris Christie and other champions of out movement we can only expect severe fracking of the entire movement. Even the almighty Tea Party Express is showing signs of disorganization. Amy Kremer’s group has once again asked their shrinking base to dump money into Wisconsin’s lost Governorship despite the calls for a more national focus. The Tea Party Express was criticized by many in the organization for spending obscene amounts of money in last years special recall elections that resulted in two minutes of press coverage and defeat or near defeat for many incumbent Republicans. It was argued that there are bigger fish to fry and money is not unlimited.
If there is conservative bedrock in this nation, it's here. But we really need to shore up our edges and somehow pull together.
Gingrich denounces Romney and pleaded with the conventioneers in South Carolina to come together behind "a real conservative" — him.
Rick Santorum, the fundamentalist candidate, made a similar pitch, asking us Tea Partiers: "Are we going to vote for somebody who can win, or for someone who is the right person for the office?"
We here we are asking ourselves that same question.
I think it is a problem that we will never appeal to the broader American demographic. And that picture is becoming more defined with every Tea Party for Obama website that pops up. There are some trends here my friends that we cannot ignore and hope our chosen candidates will somehow make disappear. The Hispanic vote will not go away. It will only grow and if we don’t expand our message to include them then they will exclude us. Right wing Christian conservative values do not appeal to most Americans. Is it possible to give them a ramp or an opening in the wall?
As I look around in our meetings, the demographic in which our values appeal is old and dying, and their’s is not the future of this country. I think some now realize that and deeply resent and hate this fact. Could it be that we were screaming so loud we lost our voice?
That's right Ernie, we can either be the silent majority or vocal majority.
The problems is we AREN"T the majority of Americans, silent or vocal, except in certain obscure demographics. The more this movement nit-picks at merde and other items that Americans could care less about the more creditablity we will be losing. Add to this the main stream media and morons like Jon Steward and Steve Colbert that MOST Americans get their political information from it's no wonder that this movement is starting to flounder.
in a democratic republic isn't it majority rules? I scratch my head when I hear the media and Rush complain about the new government in Egypt is 75% Muslim. Well if the people elect Muslims than thats what they must want. In 2010 we sent a message loud and clear of what we wanted.
This is a thoughtful post and one that I am compelled to comment on. I’ve been reluctant to post my opinions to the “Tea Party Nation” because the members are so rattled that it seems they can’t put a coherent thought together. Any attempt at constructive criticism is immediately ridiculed because it doesn’t fall into the current negative mind set; followed then by vicious name calling and stone throwing. Then you have a few of the so called "leaders" that post, as if their goal is to keep the general membership in a state of catatonic negativism. I believe this infighting is one of the reasons the “Tea Party” may be losing steam. It’s all very disheartening and a cause of grave concern.
The “Tea Party” really needs to keep a low profile during this process. That’s correct, stay cool. I think the “Tea Party” has forgotten the positive impact we had in Nov. 2010!
Case in point: Everyone here says that if Romney is elected it will be the end of the world. My take is if Romney doesn’t win the nomination “It’s FREAKIN over!!
I don’t necessarily have to like him. He just happens to be the only one with the resources to beat OBomba, the enemy of the free world. I am familiar with the posted arguments all over the blogosphere regarding “flip flops”, Progressivism, lies etc. I just haven’t seen enough evidence to convict and execute him. I’ll give you one example so as not to belabor the issue.
There is no such word in Webster’s dictionary as “flipflop”. There is “flip” and there is “flop”, but not “flipflop”. You can force the two words together with a hyphen but it still does not describe Romney. However, to be accurate he has “flipped”, that is, he has changed his stance on important conservative issues and in the correct direction, I might add. In order for him to flop he would have to go back to his original stance before he flipped. To my knowledge he has not done so. In fairness he is a moderate which is exactly why he can probably win. I use to respond to various allegations and blatant lies about the man on this forum with a request for a link or proof of malice etc. usually with no response from the perpetrator. It seems no one here wants to stand up to a truthful debate?
I know this. A native born American with a solid marriage, a large family and a proven track record in the real world has to be better than a foreign born Muslim/traitor, usurper in the White House; bent on destroying this beloved Country. At any rate, we must win the senate and keep the house. Then it really lessens the necessity of having a pure Conservative in the White House. I have no doubt that Romney loves this country. If he is elected in America’s present reality, he will rise to the task. If not, we can vote him out in 4 years, with minimal damage. The point is this. The “Tea Party” has the stuff to put him over the top! Gingrich, Santorum, Paul, not so much…
Think about it.
Good heavens, Marc. The "Tea Party for Obama" is not a "group that split from our group" It has nothing to do with the Tea Party. There have been "Tea Party"groups formed by Democratic activists: and law suits in 2010. Florida and Nevada, I believe. Old and dying? No, demographics suggest we are getting younger, over all. I've posted the graphs more than once: you are welcome to find the graphs here. I'm not going to bother, right now!
TeaPartyForObama.com does have some valid points that are inline with us here. And given that the Executive Branch of our republic's roll is to enforce the laws of the legislative branch, we may be missing the big picture. Since congress does the spending, and congress makes the laws, and congress has the power to outlaw gay marriage, shouldn't much of the dialogue be directed towards getting a majority in the Senate and shoring up the majority in the house? If you think about it, Obama with his 51% can take a full force hit from the Tea Party and will still win. If he has no support in congress, much more can be accomplished.
Obama supporters "have some valid points that are inline with us here."? I'm sorry, you don't speak for me. I don't think that you speak for most here! Perhaps you should be posting on LoveMyObama.com, not here!
I used that site as an example of how the Tea Party is splintering. Not in support of Obama dear Lord. Everyone here agrees that things aren't the same as they were in 2010. ...Tea Party has nothing to do with Obama my friend It shouldn't matter who is in office, If they support our cause and do the things we desire, who cares if they are liberals, socialists, shylock Kenyens disguised as Americans, Republicans or Martians, as long as we get our four points accomplished, who cares what color they are. My bet is that the Tea Party we all know in love will look completely different 5 years from now regardless of the outcome of the election. If we let our hate for Obama be our motivation then we have lost our calling. And we will indeed be what liberals think we are.
OUR PROBLEM IS OUR MESSAGE, IS NOT WIDESPREAD. across the NATION. EA. STATE has a different class of people with different values than the other STATES. we've seen this clearly as the primaries move from state to state. demographics change as well. the social media we have only reaches out to a certain class of people that is CONSERVATIVES and MODERATE CONSERVATIVES and undecided INDEPENDENTS whom are members of a TEA PARTY GRP. I am afraid we are a MINORITY AT BEST. the majority are made up of LIBERALS and people who do not care what is going ON. people know of us but do not care to find out what we are all abt. HOWEVER THEY SHOULD. as this is a crucial time in US HISTORY. I am afraid we are at the MERCY OF FATE HERE. hpe for the best and never say die or surrender.
Thomas if we are the minority. should we not look for avenues to have our voice heard? Unfortunately every GOP candidate is trying so hard not to offend Librals and Liberal media that their voice is shallow and without conviction. Ron Paul is the only candidate who sticks to his message. Newt suddenly found conservatism when he decided to run, Santorum lacks the charisma to attract moderates and Romney will be anything the audience at the time wants him to be. We need a combo of all four... Sarah Palin.
theTEA PARTY FOR OBAMA probably is a fraudulent group, TO SUCKER IN LIBERALS TO THINKING IT IS A VALID ORG. promoting conservative type values when in essence it is really not the real mc coy. just another way of funneling VOTES FER obuma.
All I know is that we've got to pull together. The new Obama budget calls for 300 million handbaskets. And I for one have no intention of going to hell in one. I sure wish Jesus Christ would intercede. He knew what to do with the rich, the poor, the sick, the healthy, and those who demand justice.