There are a couple of things you can say about Ron Paul. First, there is little middle ground with him. People either love him or hate him. Second, he is not shy about talking about what is on his mind.
Ron Paul earlier this week was talking about the Bin Laden operation and said, "I would suggest the way they got Khalid [Sheikh] Mohammed. We went and cooperated with Pakistan. They arrested him, actually, and turned him over to us, and he's been in prison. Why can't we work with the government?" He is of course, referring to the government of Pakistan.
Then, when asked by WHO radio if it was necessary Paul said, "I don't think it was necessary, no. It absolutely was not necessary. I think respect for the rule of law and world law and international law. What if he'd been in a hotel in London? We wanted to keep it secret, so would we have sent the airplane, you know the helicopters in to London, because they were afraid the information would get out?"
If there is any doubt that Ron Paul should not even get near the Oval Office, even on a tour of the White House, he has just revealed it. Such insane comments now raise the issue if he should even be in the Congress.
Ron Paul supporters will always rush to his defense. They will point out some good things he has said and done, such as the demand to audit the Fed.
That is all well and good but his isolationism and naïveté are simply too much.
Perhaps Ron Paul should be reminded of a few things. Bin Laden was the mastermind behind 9/11. He is not a combatant in the sense of the law, where the law of warfare applies. He is a terrorist. The best legal analogy to a terrorist is the pirates of old. Under International Law, a country that catches a pirate is pretty much free to do anything to the pirate they want.
The same should be true for terrorists.
For Ron Paul, he should know much better. As a Congressman, he should have access to some classified information that we do not have. Every American who watches the news and can fog a mirror knows that the Pakistani Intelligence Service has been a silent partner with Al-Qaeda and the Taliban. If we had tipped Pakistan off that we were going to go in and try to “arrest” Bin Laden, when we got there, all we would have found would have been an empty house and maybe some booby traps.
For a Congressman to say the raid to kill the man who is one of the greatest mass murderers of Americans in history was, “not necessary,” is simply nuts.
Ron Paul thinks that if we simply pull all of our military out of every other country and hunker down behind our borders everything will be okay. No, it won’t be. We are dealing with madmen in this world. Some of them are bent on world domination by their particular religion and others are simply nuts. Ballistic Missile technology and nuclear weapons are spreading faster than anyone can control. Kim Jong “mentally” Il can push a button and thirty minutes later one of his missiles hits America.
We cannot have a leader who does not believe in protecting America. Socialists hate America and do not want to see America defend itself. What is Ron Paul’s excuse?
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Permalink Reply by JOHN DELASAUX on O'Mara wrote, "......the only Republican who has (for over 30 years) demanded adherence to the Constitution."
Talk is cheap. Anyone can claim "adhere to the Constitution".
A better position would be: "Lower taxes and start creating jobs."
All his talk about the Federal Reserve is hot air. Our problem is SPENDING TOO MUCH, AND BORROWING TO COVER IT.
That is Congress' fault, not a Federal Reserve problem.
Permalink Reply by mikeymike143 on It is time for the Ron Paul supporters to go to sleep. It is past their bedtime. Their 15 minutes are up.
A week ago it was pointed out that CPAC was overrun by a fringe element with loud voices and goofy hair known as Paulbots.
Like every other incomprehensible Paul from John Paul to Sean Paul to Rupaul, Ron Paul and his supporters make sense only to themselves.
Before this "movement" gets even more out of hand and these young kids start biting people, it is absolutely necessary to deliver a clear stern message to the Ron Paul supporters.
Listen closely.
You don't matter. You are a useless, irrelevant fringe group that preaches to the converts and persuades nobody else.
This is where the Paulbots rip off their tinfoil hats in anger and start sending misspelled hate mail to anybody daring to criticize their king of the land of Quirkistan.
Rather than listen to the rabble, it is important to explain to them why they don't matter.
Then they will have the choice of taking steps to become a real force or remaining a curiosity.
Despite Ron Paul not winning a single primary in 2008, his supporters were loud and obnoxious. If votes were determined by disruptions at events, they would be in charge.
Since actual votes are the determinant, Ron Paul has won nothing outside of his own congressional district. This makes him as representative of America as the Pelosiraptor.
The Paulbots brag about how they have "taken back" the Republican Party. They said the same thing in 2008.
Think of Ron Paul as alternative music. Alternative musicians often turn their noses up at popular music. They say ludicrous things like "We want a small following. Most people don't understand us." I am sure a group with six fans with nose rings and blue hair is thrilled that they do not have six million fans.
Ron Paul supporters won 30% of the hard-core activists at CPAC. Of the 11,000 attendees, many did not vote. So let's not pretend that the 3,000 or so Paulbots represent a large slice of the 60 million people who voted for George W. Bush in 2004.
Being a fringe candidate is not a death sentence. Pat Buchanan was the precursor to the Paulbots, with his "Buchanan Brigades." He ran a strong protest vote in 1992 (despite winning nothing) and did actually win the 1996 New Hampshire Primary. Yet he won nothing else, and by 2000 was pulling in less than 1% of the national vote. That is not a movement. That is an asterisk.
The last serious movement candidate was Ross Perot in 1992. Despite not winning a single state in the general election, he did garner 19% of the vote. That is a serious candidacy.
Ron Paul supporters preach about what Ron Paul stands for and the Republican Party has consistently rejected it.
On economics Dr. Paul often makes sense. Yet the Republican Party has many serious political thinkers on economics, with the most prominent being Wisconsin Congressman Paul Ryan.
Where Dr. Paul veers off the reservation is with his isolationist foreign policy. Isolationism does not make him crazy, but it does make him outside the GOP mainstream. The 1950s was the last time that the isolationists comprised a serious wing of the GOP.
Dr. Paul's foreign policy views are more at home with the far left wing of the Democratic Party in the same way that Senator Joseph Lieberman represents a hawkish interventionist viewpoint no longer allowed in the Democratic Party. Many of Dr. Paul's supporters are anti-war protesters that have zero interest in any other issue.
Not all of Dr. Paul's supporters are lunatics, but Dr. Paul refuses to weed out the worst elements in the way William Buckley did with the GOP in the 1950s.
Abolishing the Federal Reserve may sound good, but railing about financial conspiracy theories does not come across as normal.
While Dr. Paul is not an anti-Semite, too many of his supporters are too willing to attack "Neocons," "bankers," and "moneylenders." Attacking Paul Wolfowitz and the IMF is another approach. Claiming that America is a pawn of Israel and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is just another contemptible form of anti-Semitism disguised as isolationism.
Code Pink does it on the left, which is where many of these Paulbots really are.
Ronald Reagan was an interventionist, as was every serious GOP presidential contender since then. The isolationists have every right to hold a different viewpoint, but they are totally wrong in claiming that their view is the Republican mainstream.
So rather than light up message boards that nobody reads or send hate mail that gets discarded, the Paulbots need to decide if they are more interested in garnering attention for themselves or in having serious discussions and building a movement that goes beyond the fringes.
The moment Ron Paul wins a single primary; he will have earned some credibility. If he loses the nomination the Paulbots will claim that "forces" aligned against them to keep Dr. Paul from winning. Those forces are the voters, and most GOP voters do not want Ron Paul or isolationism to be the dominant force in the GOP.
Ron Paul until then is a gadfly in the great tradition of Pat Paulsen and Lyndon Larouche. He draws in groups such as "hookers for Ron Paul" and "bong hits for Ron Paul." Until proven otherwise, he is not a serious candidate.
The Paulbots can yell and scream as loudly as the hard leftists, but at least the hard left (unfortunately) represents the mainstream of the Democratic Party. Unlike the Democrats, the GOP so far has successfully kept their fringe groups on the margins where they belong.
So the Paulbots can win straw polls and yell at cars in the parking lot, but that will not make them mainstream. Winning an election will.
Until then Paulbots, it needs to be said over and over until you stop talking to each other and start listening to the other 95% of the GOP wanting you to become normal.
Paulbots, get it through your heads.
You don't matter.
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Permalink Reply by Vern Shotwell on Thanks, mikeymike143.
Partisans of any potential candidate are welcome to their opinions! But they are not to insult or berate those with differing opinions. Repeating the same mantra over and over does nothing to move any opinions: it is far more likely to harden any negative opinions! It appears that a few are no longer with us, as well. Usually one or 2 warnings, and gone, it seems. Perhaps these ones are those who are not interested in the process. I don't know.
Permalink Reply by DocHollywoodMD on Is he INSANE?! We're bankrupt and he's STILL Spending?
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WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama will announce plans Thursday to funnel billions of dollars in economic aid to Egypt and Tunisia as part of a broader effort to inject democracy into the Middle East and North Africa.
Obama will unveil a massive package of economic measures, including up to $1 billion in debt relief and another $1 billion in loan guarantees, during a speech on U.S.-Middle East policy set for Thursday morning at the State Department. Other pieces of the package include a new trade partnership with the region and a fund for stimulating regional private sector investments.
Can somebody tell me WHY Obama wants to GIVE AWAY money we don't have to countries that are OIL RICH?! Let Saudi Arabia step up to the plate! They've got all the gold bathroom fixtures they could want! Let THEM give back!!!
Permalink Reply by Debrajoe Smith-Beatty on Permalink Reply by JOHN DELASAUX on Can you imagine Washington's reaction is someone suggested that the US give money to our enemies, while we are broke?
You are right, DJ, except "incompetent" is hardly strong enough. Try "treasonous".
Permalink Reply by JOHN DELASAUX on The surest way to oust Obama is to put up Bachmann for Pres.
Watch this: http://video.foxnews.com/v/4693802/rep-paul-americas-in-a-mess/?pla...
Permalink Reply by Paul Shortino on Permalink Reply by Barry Gabrielson on Permalink Reply by DocHollywoodMD on Permalink Reply by mikeymike143 on Anti-War Group Code Pink Counts Ron Paul in Their Camp
Politics makes for strange bedfellows. Add Code Pink and Republican Rep. Ron Paul to that list.
The vehemently anti-war group is organizing a slew of events this weekend in opposition to the United States' Israel policy, to coincide with the annual conference of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. Ahead of the protests, a Code Pink activist suggested the group -- at least when it comes to Israel -- is actually on the same page as Paul, a libertarian and one of the first candidates to enter the race for the GOP presidential nomination.
"The Ron Paul people are closer and closer to our talking points with each election," Code Pink activist Liz Hourican told FoxNews.com.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/18/rep-paul-codepink-camp-i...
this is NOT what the tea party is all about!! ron paul is a left/libertarian with an ''R'' in front of his name. say NO to left wing values, say NO to ron paul.
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