Coming out at CPAC



 

CPAC is starting tomorrow and guess who is coming out at CPAC?  It is GOProud, the gay GOP group. 

 

GOProud is a disturbing group.  First, they are not conservative.  Second they are trying to speak for both the conservative movement and the Tea Party movement.  Immediately after the election last year, GOProud, along with a couple of minor members of Tea Party Patriots came out with a massive pronouncement about what the new GOP majority in the House should do.  This missive of theirs was written as if they spoke for the Tea Party movement.

 

Recently Tim Pawlenty, the former Minnesota governor and long shot Presidential candidate came out against the repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.   Chris Barron, Chairman of GOProud called Pawlenty out of touch with rank and file conservatives.

 

Really?

 

GOProud, which is not now, nor has ever been a conservative or a Tea Party group, publicly joined CPAC as a sponsor.  A lot of conservatives left.  World Net Daily is boycotting CPAC.   Heritage is not going to be there.  Concerned Women for America, the Family Research Council, the Center for Military Readiness and Liberty Counsel are all passing on CPAC.  A lot of conservative groups are telling CPAC no. 

 

Is GOProud a Republican group?  Sure.  Anyone can be a Republican.   The GOP has a big tent that runs from the far right to the left.  Just because you are a Republican does not make you a conservative. 

 

A wise man once said when all of your friends are telling you that you are wrong and all of your enemies are telling you that you are right, you are wrong. 

 

Conservatives are telling CPAC you are wrong in letting this group be a major player at CPAC.  It is not a conservative group and even more disturbing is GOProud’s desire to try to speak as if it is a leader of movements it is not even a part of.

 

Conservatives are bound by certain principles.  They define us.  A political party is not defined by those principles.  A political party simply exists to get candidates elected.

 

CPAC is the granddaddy of all of the conservative gatherings.  It got its start when conservatives were wandering in the wilderness. Unfortunately, as conservatism has become big business, CPAC has been taken over and now is being run by those who are not necessarily conservative. 

 

We conservatives have the right to say who is a part of this movement and who is not.  We also have the right to say who speaks for this movement and who does not.   GOProud is not a part of this movement and does not speak for this movement.  Those who organize CPAC should be careful.  If they keep moving in the direction they are going, they may not be a part of this movement in the future either.

Tags: CPAC

Views: 30

▶ Reply to This

Replies to This Discussion

Permalink Reply by USARogue on February 12, 2011 at 7:07pm

Rade,

I read your posts and for the moment I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you're not a knuckle-dragging, mouth breathing, bigoted Liberal Troll. Just for the moment though.

Your assumption that the TEA Party is just about our Core Values leads me to believe you're uninformed, as many outside the Conservative ranks are, or you are looking to antagonize. Anyone with a first grade education understands that Conservatives are much more than just a triad of Core Values. Our social, moral, cultural and spiritual beliefs are well known to most of the world. I recommend you either read up on them or find a Conservative and talk to them.

The TEA Party is the classic melting pot that we all love to cherish. We have all walks of life, races, creeds and colors. Despite the slander the Liberal Progressives want to spew we know who we are, and we know what this great country needs. When Judson presents his posts we discuss them. Some may agree, some may not. We do it intelligently and without the vitriol common to Liberals.

So Rade, you can either learn about Conservatism or go raid some other site, we don't permit denouncements without defending ourselves. We are the TEA Party and we are proud of what we stand for.

 

Permalink Reply by Judson Phillips on February 12, 2011 at 6:53pm
For starters, much as they would like to think so, Tea Party Patriots does not own this movement.  In fact, I can only think of one of their inner circle that were even there when this movement began.  There are a lot of other tea party groups that include social issues.  Just to do the math, we win with social issues.  The conservative stool has always had three legs and social conservatives are one of the most important legs.
Permalink Reply by Tracy on February 12, 2011 at 11:46pm

Usa, you do a disservice to the Tea party by calling people names when they disagree with you.From reading the comments to Judsons post I've seen many here who just discount any disagreement as someone who is "liberal" or a troll.I'm not saying that can't happen because it does but I have to say that most liberal trolls don't usually have any kind of coherant argument and usually they aren't as tactful as some of the supposed "trolls" here.

 I've been with the tea party movement since it started.I've participated in 3 different groups locally and a few of the national groups as well.Most groups do have the fiscal issues as thier core issue.It is a general issue that can bring MANY people together.

Permalink Reply by USARogue on February 13, 2011 at 12:04am

Nora,

 

I understand what you and Rade are saying. However as a Reagan Conservative I will never compromise my beliefs to impress someone to join the pack. Our Core Values are the foundation of the TEA Party movement, but I refuse to believe that in order for those Values to succeed we can ignore our social, moral, cultural and spiritual beliefs.

We are in a much bigger fight than our 3 Core Values can solve. Without being aware of what is happening in our "ranks", such as CPAC, and addressing them we are corrupting our Conservative values. When I see CPAC allowing the ACLU and GOProud to attend the conference my antenna's go up immediately. I fear CPAC is leaning much further to the Libertarian side as it is. I am a Fiscal Libertarian and I agree with many other issues Libertarian but I am a Conservative first and foremost.

When Indiana's Governor Mitch Daniels, the new darling of CPAC, claims he will put a "truce" on social issues, I cringe. How far have we let our social issues decay already? Too far in my opinion. If we can't find a true Conservative candidate that can multi-task policy and issues, we're doomed.

 

 

Permalink Reply by Judson Phillips on February 9, 2011 at 1:04pm
I notice this is your first post on here, which is nothing but a complaint.  TPN is a major part of the conservative movement and as such we do have a right to say who is and who is not conservative.  What about them is conservative?  They simply support gay rights and support policies that are not good for this country.
Permalink Reply by F. Matthew Dolloff on February 10, 2011 at 6:11am

Judson,

 

You are the one that posted this article on TPN, therefore, the onus is on you to prove that they are not a conservative group.  Your article falls into the logically fallacious traps of ad nauseam and burden of proof.  If this article was truly worth anyone's time, you would list the GOProud mission statement and principles they have on their website and list each and every principle with which TPN disagrees. 

 

I'm pretty sure that there's only one topic that causes a disagreement between the two conservative groups.   How many topics does a group have to be on the "right" side for TPN to consider them conservative?  50 percent of the topics? 75 percent? 90 percent? 99? 100?  And what gives TPN the right to be the sole judicial voice on who's conservative and who is not? 

 

Here are some other conservative groups.  Can you let everyone know if they have your blessing since you are the highest powered arbiter on such topics?

 

Libertarians

Neoconservatives

Paeloconservatives

Traditionalists

Heritage Foundation

Cato Institute

American Conservative Union

Citizens United

The Conservative Caucus

Liberty Central

Americans for Prosperity

 

Please let us all know which groups are "okay" to join.

 

 

 

 

 

Permalink Reply by Judson Phillips on February 10, 2011 at 6:20am
Matthew you argue like a liberal.  Why don't you head back to the Daily Kos?
Permalink Reply by Tim Smith on February 9, 2011 at 1:09pm
Disturbed by the article and most of the comments.  The Tea Party is some sort of evangelical movement now ?
Permalink Reply by Shirley Eliakis on February 9, 2011 at 1:14pm
DISTURBED, Tim?  Why are you still here then?  Let your fingers do the walking to Post Huffington
Permalink Reply by Alan Kovin on February 10, 2011 at 6:06am
Eugene: What may I ask gives you the right to define conservative? That has been the issue which I have struggled with for the last 30 years since the onset of the so called moral majority. I am a heterosexual, sober man, but I resent anyone infringing on the right of anyone to practice their religious views, their substance use and their sexual preference as they see fit. If you recall, the Tea Party Movement was started as a movement for FREEDOM. Not to espouse some group's conception of morality. Please take a minute to evaluate your priorities and some real sins. Like our Military Industrial Complex that murders millions--our incessant nation building and the corruption of our banking system by the Political Elite which will most likely render our currency worthless or the fact that our food is being poisoned by the likes of Monsanto and Big Farming or that our health care system is being hijacked by Big Pharma and Big Insurance and an allopathic medical system that destroys competetion. You see, the things that you are talking about are the big distractions that we need to be careful of...it's taking our eye off the ball--of the real concerns that we as Tea Party Patriots need to be concerned about. They (the elite in this country that as George Carlin said really run this country) want us to be distracted, they want us to be stupid and they want us to be low information. Let's deal with the big picture and remember why we are here....Live and Let Live is what I say!!
Permalink Reply by JEAN MACALLISTER on February 9, 2011 at 5:07pm

GOProud is a group of homosexuals. As such, they have no place in an organization which stands for family values. Many conservatives feel that if they approve of letting GOProud join CPAC, they will be condoning a lifestyle they consider sinful. Let GOPrould stay within their own organization. 

Permalink Reply by Alan Kovin on February 10, 2011 at 6:06am
Oh I see...if you're gay you can't have family values?

RSS

Tea Party Nation is a social network

 



© 2013   Created by Judson Phillips.

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Terms of Service

Sign in to chat!