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The Republicans had another debate last night.  It was on Bloomberg TV.  Who even knew that existed?

 

Would someone please explain why the GOP thinks it is such a great idea to have a liberal network and liberal hosts, handle their debates?

 

Charlie Rose kept pushing the Republican candidates on “compromise” and tried to take a Reagan quote to get the candidates to bite on tax increases.  Karen Tumulty looked like a slightly younger version of Helen Thomas, with a personality to match.

 

There were winners, losers and non-factors.

 

The biggest loser was Rick Perry.  The only good news for Perry is that he did not have another rambling, incoherent answer like he did at the last debate.  Another one of those could have sunk his campaign.  The bad news is he was treated like a second tier candidate.  Well, now he is a second tier candidate.  Despite his massive fundraising, he is falling in the polls faster than an out of control NASA satellite. 

 

The non-factors were Jon Huntsman, Rick Santorum and Ron Paul.  Huntsman remains creepy, though he seemed better prepared.  The only question is which cabinet position he is running for.  Santorum pops up with a good comment every now and then but mostly complains about being ignored.  Perhaps there is a reason why you are being ignored Rick.  If you really want to get your voice heard, perhaps you should study Newt Gingrich.  He jumped in, often without being asked and delivered devastating points.  

 

Mentioning the Federal Reserve is like catnip to Ron Paul and he went off with the predictable reaction.  He remains a non-factor.  He has his supporters and will always have them.  But he is not making any progress with the rest of the electorate.

 

Michele Bachmann turned in one of her best debate performances in a long time.  Romney’s softball question was a bit puzzling unless Romney thinks by keeping Bachmann afloat he can drain support from Cain.   With her campaign on life support, this may have been too little too late or it may have been an audition for the VP spot.

 

Mitt Romney did not lose, but that does not mean he won.  He has plateaued at about 25%.  Most of the Republicans do not want him.  Despite the best efforts of the GOP to say there is none, there very much is a Republican establishment.  It is real and he has their support after their hopes that a less flawed RINO might jump in and steal Romney’s thunder.  Romney repeats his talking points and tries to avoid tough questions.  The question about Bain Capital is a preview of what we will see if the GOP truly screws up and makes him the nominee.   One thing that is very obvious from the debates is Romney believes in being the manager of big government.   He does not see big government as a problem, only as something to be well managed.

 

Herman Cain was everyone’s target last night.  He is rising in the polls and he acquitted himself well last night.  His 9-9-9 plan remains seriously flawed and some of the other Republicans danced around the flaw with the exception of Michele Bachmann. She alone pointed out that Cain’s plan opens the door for another tax while allowing the government to maintain it’s current tax system. 

 

Cain is a great orator, though not such a great debater.   The one thing that was never fully explored was the idea that Cain can get his plan through Congress unchanged.  He believes he can have Congress enact a provision that will require a 2/3 vote to raise taxes.  That is a great idea, but as we have learned too many times in the past, Congress will take the popular parts of a plan, enact it and forget some of the important things.  Handcuffing Congress on taxes and spending is something that will not happen.  They love their power too much.

 

Then there is Newt Gingrich. Newt remains the smartest guy on the stage and probably the most tactically shrewd.  Charlie Rose tried to pin him down and that just was not happening.  Periodically, Newt would pop up with, “let me say something here.”  Then he would launch into a really great point that would leave the other candidates simply nodding in agreement.  Gingrich’s strategy may be keep-doing showing well in the debates and then as the field starts to get whittled, his stock will rise.   Since the early Republican primaries are not going to be winner take all primaries but proportional primaries, he does not have to win the early states to remain viable.  All he has to do is come in with respectable showings.

 

Who won?

 

There really was no clear winner.  Cain did well.  Newt did well.  Bachmann did better than she has been doing and Romney did not screw up.  It is pretty obvious they will be the final four.  The real question is going to be which of those three conservatives will be the last one standing to take on Romney.

 

The real answer is we need a real conservative to take on Obama and that is definitely not Romney.

 

 

Tags: 2012, bachmann, cain, debate, gingrich, gop, paul, romney, santorum

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so ray
I saw art laffer on fox interview today and blessed this 999 p;an without any roblems,, I seriously dont see it thqt way I see future problems and open pandora boxes how does one get that message out while cain surges with perry"s supporters and bachmans
i don't like the way cain tried to make the rock thing against perry before knowing the facts, same as romney now doing the mormon thing. the perry campaign needs to repair this, and get perry on the netwok, because cain is book touring.
of all people art laffer backing plans, go fish.
so ray
I saw art laffer on fox interview today and blessed this 999 p;an without any roblems,, I seriously dont see it thqt way I see future problems and open pandora boxes how does one get that message out while cain surges with perry"s supporters and bachmans
i don't like the way cain tried to make the rock thing against perry before knowing the facts, same as romney now doing the mormon thing. the perry campaign needs to repair this, and get perry on the netwok, because cain is book touring.
of all people art laffer backing plans, go fish.
so ray
I saw art laffer on fox interview today and blessed this 999 p;an without any roblems,, I seriously dont see it thqt way I see future problems and open pandora boxes how does one get that message out while cain surges with perry"s supporters and bachmans
i don't like the way cain tried to make the rock thing against perry before knowing the facts, same as romney now doing the mormon thing. the perry campaign needs to repair this, and get perry on the netwok, because cain is book touring.
of all people art laffer backing plans, go fish.
so ray
I saw art laffer on fox interview today and blessed this 999 p;an without any roblems,, I seriously dont see it thqt way I see future problems and open pandora boxes how does one get that message out while cain surges with perry"s supporters and bachmans
i don't like the way cain tried to make the rock thing against perry before knowing the facts, same as romney now doing the mormon thing. the perry campaign needs to repair this, and get perry on the netwok, because cain is book touring.
of all people art laffer backing plans, go fish.
Ron, For me I say change for God and Country. Get rid of the riff raff and dead wood that has been smoldering quite some time huh?
Ditto! Comrade ditto! I'm 59 and have worked all my life from 67' til now and I'm still working P/T because this little piss ants can't hold up their end of the bargain great huh?No one is gonna take a Dang thing from me either. God Bless !

jsps

herman cain and romney are close - prior to this election - were you aware of this???  so they are going to pat eachother on back,  and then supporting romeny in 2008  and now say his vp is paul ryan or jim demint????

what the heck is that all about????

I have not heard jim demint say a thing-- and if cain keeps this up-- he will not beat obama

gabby I beg to differ although I value your opinions but I'm sick of the class warfare , race card, and genuine arrogance and ignorance of the pitiful "Occupy Wall Street" circus as well as this current Administration. How dare they compare the Tea Party movement and Veteran movement to this side show. I know who the real Americans are and they ain't it!

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